Board 8 Ranks Generation IV Pokemon

Another Pokemon ranking project hosted by starfox! This time 62 people submitted their lists for Gen 4, which put all 107 of its Pokemon in order of how much each user likes each Pokemon. These lists were all combined to make an overall ranking for the generation. The goal is to more accurately access Pokemon popularity, since this factors in like, dislike, and apathy.

The rankings were due on February 3, 2015 and starfox began posting them late that evening.

Users Participating In The Gen IV Pokemon Rankings
62 users participated in the rankings, which is slightly more than Gens 2 and 3. Gen 1 only had 41, likely due to these projects still being new.

Anagram Arti Bane BetrayedTangy Bospsy Brayze Brohan CasanovaZelos Cody Comm Cybat darkx do_ob Dragon66116 Drak Ecks Eddv Ermine Flubbin FrostHarpy Gen Goa Inviso JONA junglebob Karo KBM Lefty Logicblade Luster Magmortar Mana MI mnk MSG Natwaf Naye Nick OrangeCrush Paratroopa Paul ProfDEADPOOL Raka red Sanity scarlet Scepter Snake5s Sorozone starfox Steiner Stifled Suor swordz Tazzy TexWolf Wickle Wigs Wizards XIII Xuxon xx521xx

107. Wormadam (Score: 5688)
Average Ranking: 91.74 (St. Dev: 13.64) Fully Evolved Rank: 68/68 Bug Rank: 9/9 Grass Rank: 14/14 Burmy line: 3/3

39 - Raka 41 - Lefty 66 - scarlet 72 - Gen 77 - FrostHarpy 78 - OrangeCrush 79 - Cybat 79 - Arti 80 - red 80 - Eddv 82 - Natwaf 82 - ProfDEADPOOL 83 - starfox 83 - Snake5s 83 - Ecks 83 - XIII 85 - Karo 87 - xx521xx 87 - Tazzy 87 - Dragon66116 87 - Sanity 89 - KBM 90 - Nick 91 - Goa 93 - Ermine 93 - Cody 93 - Anagram 94 - Wigs 95 - JONA 95 - Flubbin 95 - Brohan 95 - Drak 96 - Steiner 96 - Bospsy 96 - Luster 96 - Wizards 97 - CasanovaZelos 97 - Sorozone 97 - Suor 98 - junglebob 99 - Stifled 100 - do_ob 100 - TexWolf 101 - MI 101 - swordz 101 - Inviso 101 - Naye 102 - Magmortar 103 - Wickle 103 - Brayze 103 - Paul 104 - Logicblade 104 - Mana 104 - Paratroopa 104 - darkx 105 - Comm 105 - MSG 106 - mnk 106 - Bane 106 - Xuxon 107 - Scepter 107 - BetrayedTangy

Raka: Feminine

OrangeCrush: ''Ugly honey Pokemon. This whole line could be deleted from the series and I wouldn't even notice.''

Cybat: ''It's pretty cool that it can change types, but unfortunately nothing it can do makes it at all interesting, visually or competitively. Her name is kinda clever though.''

Arti: i mean, gimmicks like this are actually cool, but giving them to trash pokemon kinda defeats the entire purpose

Natwaf: ''While I think the gm,iick is annoying… I do like the interesting typings we get. Too bad Wormadam SUCKS.''

KBM: ''It's a snowcone with a nose. Made out of plants, sand, or... uh... trash.''

Anagram: '' I don’t even know where you can buy flower vases. Home Depot?''

Suor: Out of Plant, Sandy, Trash and Cloak there is only one world that perfectly represents the essence of Wormadam.

junglebob: Burmy with a bigger nose.

Stifled: ''WormaDAMN, girl! You’s a s***ty Pokemon!''

do_ob: ''This green thing was a preview of the garbage pile poke in gen 5. Not half as bad as that thing, but still just a green pile.''

swordz: They knew this thing sucked because they called one Wormadam-Trash

Inviso: Garbage Bug-type, which says a lot.

Magmortar: Can we just get to the Bugs in Gen 5 already?

Brayze: nothing quite as feminine as a worm in a bag hanging from a tree, just slap some eyelashes on there and it's boner city

Paratroopa: worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/wows_forum_art/kilroy/kilroywas_here.jpg yeah I'm glad we won WWII now

Bane: Ugh, just ugh.

Scepter: Trash Cloak should be permanent cause this Pokemon is GARBAGE

106. Happiny (Score: 5627)
Average Ranking: 90.76 (St. Dev: 20.62) NFE Rank: 39/39 Normal Rank: 17/17 Babies: 8/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 29/29

25 - Inviso 34 - do_ob 35 - Karo 46 - MI 49 - xx521xx 53 - Wizards 60 - darkx 64 - Cody 64 - Suor 70 - Paul 71 - Bane 74 - Scepter 81 - junglebob 83 - Lefty 84 - Steiner 84 - MSG 86 - red 86 - Dragon66116 90 - Bospsy 91 - Gen 93 - Mana 93 - Xuxon 95 - Ermine 95 - Luster 95 - swordz 95 - BetrayedTangy 96 - mnk 97 - Eddv 99 - Drak 100 - FrostHarpy 101 - Raka 101 - Snake5s 101 - Ecks 101 - XIII 101 - CasanovaZelos 101 - Wickle 103 - ProfDEADPOOL 103 - Sanity 103 - Naye 103 - Comm 104 - OrangeCrush 104 - starfox 104 - Wigs 104 - JONA 104 - Brohan 104 - Sorozone 105 - Nick 105 - Goa 105 - TexWolf 105 - Logicblade 106 - scarlet 106 - Cybat 106 - Arti 106 - Tazzy 106 - KBM 106 - Anagram 106 - Flubbin 107 - Natwaf 107 - Stifled 107 - Magmortar 107 - Brayze 107 - Paratroopa

Inviso: Useful for stealing lucky eggs.

do_ob: ''I've heard a lot of people hating on Happiny. I like her personally. And she's responsible for that touching episode where she evolved into a Chansey to help Brock care for some sick pokes.''

junglebob: ''I'm shocked I have Happiny so high, but I have to admit it's kinda cute. ''

Ermine: Ugh

swordz: ''It's kind of cute I guess. Thankfully it prevents a Blissey evolution.''

Raka: Try-hard

XIII: ''Really. Did we really need this.''

Sanity: Chansey family still one of the worst.

OrangeCrush: Ugly baby.

Wigs: Happini makes me saddini.

Goa: Another stupid baby Pokemon destined to evolve into one of two most despised competitive Pokemon ever.

Cybat: ''This thing is just so weird looking. And that's not even getting into the fact that it has no reason to exist.''

Arti: more useless baby pokemon.

KBM: ''I thought Mime Jr. was the worst thing. I was wrong. Happiny is the worst thing.''

Anagram: ''I actually don’t like eggs. I just don’t find them to be tasty''

Natwaf: ''… okay, seriously, WHY GAMEFREAK WHY? WHY WOULD YOU GIVE MAKE EVEN MORE BABIES? WE HATE THEM! AND IT'S FOR THE PINK GODDAMN ABOMINATION. IT ALREADY EVOLVES, IT DIDN'T NEED ANOTHER ONE! And the icing on the **** YOU cake is that it needs a rare item to evolve. By holding it and then leveling up. WHY? I know you don't want to have another Happiness requirement, but just slap a level on it or something >_> There is no redeeming value to Happiny; it's not even an EXP punching bag like it's bigger, uglier forms. **** Happiny, **** Chansey, AND **** BLISSEY.''

Stifled: ''Babies give rabies. ''

Magmortar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLZix8NVjg

Brayze: ''Nobody ever thought this was 'cute'. This design could only be motivated by pure malice.''

Paratroopa: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

105. Burmy (Score: 5613)
Average Ranking: 90.53 (St. Dev: 17.10) NFE Rank: 38/39 Bug Rank: 8/9 Burmy Line: 2/3

22 - Ermine 24 - Eddv 34 - Lefty 63 - Paratroopa 77 - xx521xx 77 - KBM 78 - Bospsy 80 - ProfDEADPOOL 80 - OrangeCrush 81 - Gen 82 - Cybat 84 - Cody 84 - Raka 85 - red 85 - Snake5s 85 - starfox 85 - Arti 86 - Sanity 86 - Brayze 88 - XIII 89 - Sorozone 90 - Karo 92 - Suor 92 - TexWolf 93 - scarlet 94 - darkx 94 - Drak 94 - Wickle 94 - Tazzy 95 - Xuxon 95 - Wigs 96 - Ecks 96 - JONA 97 - FrostHarpy 98 - Wizards 98 - Mana 98 - CasanovaZelos 98 - Goa 98 - Anagram 99 - do_ob 99 - MI 99 - junglebob 100 - Bane 100 - Steiner 100 - Naye 100 - Brohan 101 - Scepter 101 - Dragon66116 101 - Nick 102 - Paul 102 - swordz 102 - Natwaf 103 - mnk 103 - Logicblade 103 - Flubbin 104 - MSG 104 - Luster 104 - Comm 104 - Stifled 104 - Magmortar 105 - Inviso 106 - BetrayedTangy

Ermine: ''Burmy moved up a lot because of his appearance in the anime. He was pretty damn adorable in the eps he was in so I gotta give him a little love.''

Paratroopa: ''man, okay, I used to sort of hate this thing, but here's the thing. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/c/c9/412Burmy-Plant.png/250px-412Burmy-Plant.png really look at its face. I mean really look at its face. f***in' hilarious right? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120906034215/es.pokemon/images/c/c2/Burmy_arena_%28anime_DP%29.png god are you SEEING this?''

OrangeCrush: ''Ugly honey Pokemon. This whole line could be deleted from the series and I wouldn't even notice.''

Cybat: ''This thing is confusing. It has a branched evolution and it changes colors. So why is it so forgettable?''

Raka: Loser

Arti: rare for absolutely no reason

Brayze: Hoo boy was I waiting for another bagworm pokemon so that once more I can bask in the glory that is bagworms

Suor: I will concede that between Burmy, Cherrim and Wormadam, some things have enough self respect as to hide themselves from the world for its own good.They could teach Rhyperior a thing or two.

Goa: Gets a few bonus points for its weird type mechanic, but at the end of the day, its still strange and useless.

Anagram: Do they still make those hanging potted plants you could buy when I was a little kid?

do_ob: Smaller green pile.

junglebob: I guess the cloaks are a thing, but Burmy has such a lousy design that I just don't care about it.

Bane: ''Another weird, creepy ass Pokemon. This Generation has all the creepers.''

swordz: Swadloon did the covered in leaves thing way better

Natwaf: ''A neat gimmick, but annoying. Not only does it evolve basend on gender, it also evolves depending on the coat it was wearing. Looks horrible too. Dumb bagworm.''

Stifled: ''Hi I’m Burmy. ''

Magmortar: ''Worse than Wurmple, and has something that should make it memorable unlike Wurmple. Burmy sucks.''

Inviso: Garbage Bug-type, which says a lot.

104. Lickilicky (Score: 5493)
Average Ranking: 88.60 (St. Dev: 26.65) Fully Evolved Rank: 67/68 Normal Rank: 16/17 Part of a Preexisting Line: 28/29

1 - Paul 8 - Sanity 18 - junglebob 26 - Brohan 34 - Magmortar 45 - Lefty 48 - scarlet 50 - XIII 64 - Stifled 65 - Wizards 66 - Wigs 71 - Cody 71 - Naye 72 - FrostHarpy 74 - ProfDEADPOOL 85 - Natwaf 90 - Raka 91 - Sorozone 91 - JONA 92 - swordz 93 - OrangeCrush 95 - Comm 97 - Xuxon 97 - Nick 98 - red 98 - Luster 99 - Wickle 100 - Cybat 100 - CasanovaZelos 100 - Inviso 101 - xx521xx 101 - Arti 101 - TexWolf 102 - Paratroopa 102 - Steiner 102 - MSG 103 - Ermine 103 - Ecks 103 - Bane 104 - Suor 104 - Goa 104 - MI 104 - mnk 104 - Flubbin 105 - BetrayedTangy 106 - Eddv 106 - Gen 106 - Snake5s 106 - starfox 106 - Brayze 106 - Karo 106 - Drak 106 - Scepter 107 - KBM 107 - Bospsy 107 - darkx 107 - Tazzy 107 - Mana 107 - Anagram 107 - do_ob 107 - Dragon66116 107 - Logicblade

Sanity: Lickitung is obviously better, but this guy is fat and funny in his own way.

junglebob: Lickitung succesfully evolves to the next stage of goofiness here, Lickilicky always makes me smile

Magmortar: ''It looks a good ten times worse than Lickitung (not a good place to start!), but you know what? That explosion is so strong it’s wrong and it’s great.''

XIII: SO DUMB BUT SO GOOD

Stifled: ''It isn’t a good Pokemon, but how is this one considered close to the worst or even the worst? ''

Natwaf: ''I actually like it more than Lickitung. However, it's an awful pokemon.''

Raka: Defective

swordz: ''GameFreak please stop. We didn't want or need this thing.''

OrangeCrush: ''I don't hate him as much as some people, but he's still awful. Bad coloring and that tongue is dumb at best, and downright creepy if you think about it more.''

Cybat: ''STAB Explosion is pretty cool, but ugh, just look at him. Not to mention his name is so unpleasant.''

Inviso: How do you ruin Lickitung?

Arti: this did not need an evolution, gamefreak pls

Paratroopa: were you TRYING to ruin lickitung as much as utterly possible

Ermine: ''What did Lickitung do to deserve this. Seriously. Ugh.''

Ecks: ''I actually kind of like Lickitung. It's weird, but has a bit of charm to it that I can't really explain. Lickilicky is over designed and unnecessary.''

Bane: ''Stop with the not needed evolutions. Prime example of how bad they can be.''

Suor: If I received an euro for every thing about Lickilicky's existence that is stupid, gross, useless or disturbing I would not be on board 8 talking about Lickilicky, the child of Satan himself.

Goa: ''I actually like or accept most of the new Gen IV evolutions, even if they are rather odd, but this is just too far. I'll leave it to the other write ups to post the tongue jokes.''

Gen: ''I already ruined my Lickitung-Snubbull-dumb-pink-thing-in-last-place streak by ranking Luvdisc above Mawile (she knows what she did) so no regrets that I didn't put this in 107th, although it really deserves it. As if Lickitung wasn't fat and stupid enough, it evolves into a caricature of itself once it learns a certain move capitalizing on its own stupid fatness. Words cannot convey how much I dislike this thing so instead I'll just say that it's one of Great_Paul's favorite pokémon. Enough said!''

Brayze: If this isn't at or near the bottom of the list I'm breaking up with you, board 8

Karo: ''You can almost hear this pokemon screaming: 'oh dear god, why do I exist? please someone kill me now... it hurts, it hurts!'''

Scepter: Combined with Probopass, the tongue Pokemon and the nose Pokemon prove why Gamefreak shouldn't base Pokemon off of faces

KBM: ''I thought Happiny was the worst thing. I was wrong. Lickilicky is the worst thing.''

darkx: And the award for my least-favorite Pokemon in existance goes to...

Anagram: ''Remember before wi-fi was a thing? I do''

do_ob: ''They took my Lickitung, and turned him into this ugly round ball with a cravat and a blob on the tip of his head. I hate you Lickilicky. I hate you.''

103. Purugly (Score: 5476)
Average Ranking: 88.32 (St. Dev: 19.43) Fully Evolved Rank: 66/68 Normal Rank: 15/17 Glameow Line: 2/2

17 - Sanity 28 - Snake5s 31 - junglebob 53 - Sorozone 55 - Karo 56 - Gen 63 - Wizards 72 - OrangeCrush 76 - Scepter 78 - FrostHarpy 78 - xx521xx 78 - TexWolf 79 - Drak 80 - Natwaf 80 - Ecks 82 - XIII 83 - Stifled 85 - Comm 85 - Nick 86 - Xuxon 86 - Paratroopa 87 - scarlet 88 - Raka 88 - MI 88 - KBM 90 - Inviso 91 - Magmortar 91 - Arti 91 - Mana 93 - Suor 93 - Brayze 94 - Ermine 94 - Goa 96 - Logicblade 97 - ProfDEADPOOL 97 - mnk 97 - Dragon66116 98 - Bane 98 - do_ob 99 - Cody 99 - swordz 99 - Anagram 100 - MSG 100 - BetrayedTangy 100 - starfox 100 - Bospsy 101 - Wigs 101 - Tazzy 102 - red 102 - Cybat 104 - Wickle 104 - Steiner 105 - Luster 105 - Eddv 106 - Lefty 106 - CasanovaZelos 106 - darkx 107 - Paul 107 - Brohan 107 - Naye 107 - JONA 107 - Flubbin

Sanity: ''This looks like the kind of cat I’d like in animated movies. Looks like a total a******. The best kind of cat.''

junglebob: Purugly haters just don't understand the joy that is obese cats.

OrangeCrush: Ugly cat, but it's still a cat I suppose.

Natwaf: ''I don't think it's too ugly, but I can't remember a single thing about this and it's NFE. Other than it's a cat. So yeah, here's my MEH line''

Ecks: ''It's fat. Why are you so fat? Glameow is all dainty and pretty, but big mama cat has let herself go.''

Stifled: ''It isn’t even the ugliest Pokemon in the game. Good try though!''

Paratroopa: ''haha I didn't notice until doing these writeups that purugly's tail is a corset. that's pretty clever actually. I dunno where you expect me to rank a pokemon that literally has ugly in its name though''

Raka: Voluminous

KBM: ...The hell?

Inviso: It's called PurUGLY for a reason.

Magmortar: ''NO. Especially to Mars’ ****ing LEVEL 16 or whatever one. That was complete malarkey.''

Arti: ''it even has ugly in the name. certainly lives up to its expectations''

Suor: When your name is Purugly and your designers tried hard to make you the worst looking thing ever, not achieving the bottom of a list made up by mostly horrible things kind of defeats the purpose of your existence.

Brayze: worst cat!

Ermine: So ugly.

Goa: ''I'm a cat person, but god is this thing terrifying. I think if you fed your house cat the neighbors annoying brats, it would eventually become Purugly.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Ugly fat cat. Boo''

Bane: ''Wait, wait, I gotta say it: ITS LOOKS ARE IN ITS NAME! I bet that one hasn't been told before. But yeah, what the hell. It swallowed Glameow whole and just did I don't know what.''

do_ob: How did something as cute as Glameow produce this thing?

swordz: Somebody put this morbidly obese and ugly cat down.

Anagram: ''I’ve had well over six cats in my life. Only one lasted more than four years''

Bospsy: ''What I'm wondering is, did anyone use Purugly after their Glameow evolved? I sincerely doubt it.''

Wigs: -Let's name a pokemon ugly -oh yeah good idea boss -yeah, -yeah.

Cybat: ''It's gotta be damaging to your self-esteem to have "ugly" right in your name. Too bad this thing is pretty worthless in battle too.''

Brohan: most aptly named poke of all time

Flubbin: ''The worst Pokemon ever. What a horrific waste of space.''

102. Mime Jr. (Score: 5347)
Average Ranking: 86.24(St. Dev: 25.24) NFE Rank: 65/68 Fairy Rank: 2/2 Psychic Rank: 9/9 Babies: 7/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 27/29

3 - MI 7 - Bospsy 19 - xx521xx 33 - JONA 40 - darkx 41 - do_ob 49 - Bane 55 - Gen 58 - Karo 60 - Brohan 61 - red 67 - swordz 69 - Inviso 70 - mnk 85 - Paul 85 - Naye 86 - Magmortar 88 - Wigs 88 - Steiner 89 - Sanity 90 - Scepter 90 - Mana 91 - Cody 93 - Sorozone 93 - BetrayedTangy 93 - Flubbin 94 - Cybat 95 - FrostHarpy 96 - Eddv 97 - Ermine 98 - Drak 98 - Ecks 98 - Arti 98 - Tazzy 99 - Wizards 99 - OrangeCrush 99 - Lefty 99 - CasanovaZelos 100 - XIII 100 - Suor 100 - Brayze 100 - Logicblade 100 - Luster 101 - Natwaf 101 - Comm 101 - Paratroopa 102 - ProfDEADPOOL 103 - junglebob 103 - TexWolf 103 - Xuxon 103 - scarlet 103 - Raka 103 - Dragon66116 104 - Nick 105 - KBM 105 - Anagram 105 - starfox 106 - Stifled 106 - Goa 106 - MSG 107 - Snake5s 107 - Wickle

Bospsy: ''A couple of years ago Mime Jr. might have been my overall number one, but lately I've come to realise that it's more the idea I have of it that appeals to me than Mime Jr.'s design itself. I really liked Mime Jr. on the anime, especially that one episode where he and james legitimely won some sort of friendship/walking contest. Ultimately that's not exclusive to Mime Jr. and that's why it has fallen a bit for me. I do still like the design, just less so. ''

do_ob: He and James were great together.

swordz: Superior to Mr. Mime since it doesn't look like a pedophile clown

Inviso: Baby Pokemon, but not COMPLETELY terrible.

Magmortar: I mean I actually like Mr. Mime but why does THIS thing even exist

Cybat: ''I actually like him more than I thought I would after looking at his design again. He's so cute and happy, and a Fairy now to boot. But he does keep the trend of his parent of having an extraordinarily uncreative name.''

Ermine: And you thought Mr Mime was bad...

Arti: ''i wonder if mr. mime should be renamed to mime sr. since there are female mr. mimes. it would make a lot more sense considering mime jr.''

Wizards: ''....................... why?''

OrangeCrush: Ugly baby.

XIII: ''Really. Did we really need this.''

Suor: Looks like a Digimon turd came to life.

Brayze: ''In any gen other than gen 4, Mime Jr would be second worst at the very best. But this is gen 4, the worst pokemon generation in history! A generation where a PREVOLUTION to Mr. F***ing Mime isn't in the bottom 5.''

Natwaf: NFE BABY trash.

Comm: Mr. Mime did not need a pre-evo

Paratroopa: no we never needed another one of these f***ing things, thanks for not asking

Raka: Creepy

KBM: ''I thought Igglybuff was the worst thing. I was wrong. Mime Jr. is the worst thing.''

Anagram: ''I can’t recall ever seeing a mime in real life. You see them in movies and TV shows and such all the time, but I’ve never seen an actual mime''

Stifled: ''Babies have scabies. ''

Goa: I shutter imagining the terrible things that must have happened to Mime Jr. that caused him to grow up into a sex offender.

101. Budew (Score: 5201)
Average Ranking: 83.88 (St. Dev: 19.70) NFE Rank: 64/68 Grass Rank: 13/14 Poison Rank: 8/8 Babies: 6/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 26/29

39 - darkx 40 - Wizards 41 - BetrayedTangy 41 - Drak 44 - do_ob 45 - Inviso 48 - Scepter 52 - Paratroopa 55 - Lefty 63 - Xuxon 64 - Bospsy 71 - Paul 71 - Sanity 72 - starfox 73 - MI 73 - Gen 73 - Eddv 74 - Karo 78 - Magmortar 79 - swordz 80 - Brayze 81 - Bane 81 - Comm 82 - Goa 83 - Steiner 85 - mnk 86 - Naye 86 - Snake5s 88 - red 88 - Luster 90 - XIII 91 - FrostHarpy 92 - Wickle 93 - Dragon66116 94 - Cody 95 - Logicblade 95 - scarlet 95 - KBM 96 - Mana 96 - TexWolf 97 - Brohan 97 - Tazzy 97 - Natwaf 97 - Anagram 98 - OrangeCrush 98 - ProfDEADPOOL 98 - Raka 99 - xx521xx 99 - JONA 99 - Ermine 101 - MSG 102 - Ecks 102 - Suor 102 - Nick 103 - Cybat 104 - CasanovaZelos 105 - Sorozone 105 - Flubbin 105 - Stifled 106 - junglebob 107 - Wigs 107 - Arti

do_ob: ''So cute, you feel like carrying and nursing this bundle of leaves. Lullaby baby…~ *snitsky punts budew into the crowd*''

Inviso: I actually like having this to start the line.

Paratroopa: ''have you ever noticed that budew and bonsly have almost exactly the same shape? yeah weird. budew has a funnier face though''

Magmortar: ''My Platinum Nuzlocke, I got a Budew, eventually there was a point I only had like three good Pokemon (Prinplup, Luxio and Golbat) and was about to face Fantina so I needed good ****. I tried to train Budew for the longest time, it just never worked, it never evolved and then it died. Golbat then died during the fight with Fantina. So yeah Budew is pretty awful and I blame it for me losing the Golbat (who ALSO would never evolve. ****ing happiness evolution…)''

swordz: It just looks so happy

Brayze: hi my name's budew and I'm a waste of time SEEEE YA LATER (is hit by a pickup truck)

KBM: ''See, it's stuff like this that makes me not like Grass Pokémon. It's also stuff like this that dilutes Poison as as type.''

Natwaf: NFE BABY trash.

Anagram: ''Anyone else ever read Walt Whitman’s Leaves of Grass? Like this post on Facebook and follow it on Twitter if you’ve read Walt Whitman’s Leaves of Grass''

OrangeCrush: Ugly baby, and what did Roselia do to deserve a baby?

Raka: Babyish

Ecks: It's an incredibly bland baby from a line that didn't need it.

Suor: ''I'm pretty sure that everyone going into gen 4 thought “OMG you know what would be cool? If they made a Roselia baby pokémon with absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever!”. Thank god everyone's wish was granted.''

Cybat: ''I always think it's related to the Ludicolo line at first because why is there dew in its name? But yeah it is dumb looking and a baby, so, bottom 5.''

Stifled: ''They copy pasta’d a whole family for Roselia in this generation. I guess that’s a better tactic than just adding babies. ''

junglebob: ''Even by baby Pokemon standards, the existence of Budew seems unnecessary. And there's just something I don't like about its face.''

Wigs: more like bu-die-please

Arti: ''the useless grass poison from the previous gen gets a baby form, wtf. get out''

100. Kricketot (Score: 5103)
Average Ranking: 82.30 (St. Dev: 20.95) NFE Rank: 35/39 Bug Rank: 7/9 Kricketot Line: 2/2

23 - Lefty 25 - ProfDEADPOOL 27 - Gen 33 - Suor 42 - Drak 43 - darkx 53 - Sanity 56 - swordz 58 - Wickle 62 - Anagram 62 - Raka 65 - Eddv 69 - Xuxon 70 - Logicblade 73 - mnk 75 - Mana 79 - Bospsy 79 - JONA 80 - Snake5s 80 - CasanovaZelos 81 - Karo 82 - red 82 - Nick 84 - Ermine 86 - starfox 86 - Tazzy 86 - Flubbin 87 - FrostHarpy 87 - Cody 88 - OrangeCrush 88 - junglebob 90 - Cybat 90 - Sorozone 91 - BetrayedTangy 91 - Bane 91 - XIII 93 - Wigs 93 - Arti 94 - Magmortar 94 - Comm 94 - Natwaf 94 - Ecks 95 - Scepter 97 - Wizards 98 - MI 98 - Brohan 98 - Stifled 99 - Brayze 99 - Goa 99 - Steiner 99 - Dragon66116 99 - KBM 99 - TexWolf 100 - Paul 100 - scarlet 100 - xx521xx 102 - do_ob 102 - Inviso 102 - Naye 103 - Luster 103 - MSG 105 - Paratroopa

ProfDEADPOOL: ''becomes the awesome Kricketune and has a pretty cool color scheme also. And bugs are %#$*ing awesome.''

Suor: This will probably get a lot of undeserved hate, but honestly a cricket in a orchestra director suit is simple and cool enough.

swordz: ''I used to hate it, but I don't know why. It's a pretty neat little bug''

Anagram: ''Can vests have sleeves? I want to say no, but I’m not completely sure''

Raka: Bizarre

OrangeCrush: Dumb early bug.

Cybat: ''Ugh, another Bider. At least he makes up for his terrible early movepool with his terrible stats.''

Arti: stop shoving bide down our throats game freak

Magmortar: You know, a better Pokemon could have gotten that cry.

Stifled: ''Hi box warmer. Nice to meet you. ''

Brayze: ''I'm glad this was the last time they made a truly crappy starting bug. Let's face it kricketot is damn terrible and I think his creation is what changed the trend''

Goa: ''My hate tier is remarkably low this generation. I have nothing against Kricketot other than being a typical useless bug, its just the start of my indifference tier.''

KBM: ''Oh, great, more bugs for me to rank. This one's a cricket. Which I don't like any better than the rest.''

do_ob: ''A red bug. So unmemorable.''

Inviso: Garbage Bug-type, which says a lot.

Paratroopa: this thing and its big dumb nose are so terrible that I literally can't find the words, and there's two things in gen 4 worse than this somehow

99. Cherubi (Score: 4927)
Average Ranking: 79.46 (St. Dev: 25.87) NFE Rank: 34/39 Grass Rank: 12/14 Cherubi Line: 2/2

2 - Bospsy 3 - Xuxon 18 - Paratroopa 30 - darkx 30 - Brayze 32 - Naye 49 - MI 50 - Lefty 50 - Drak 52 - Logicblade 52 - Magmortar 55 - Anagram 57 - do_ob 65 - swordz 65 - Karo 67 - Sanity 67 - Wizards 71 - ProfDEADPOOL 71 - mnk 74 - Bane 75 - OrangeCrush 76 - Mana 81 - BetrayedTangy 82 - Paul 85 - Cybat 87 - Eddv 87 - Ermine 87 - Comm 89 - red 90 - FrostHarpy 90 - Ecks 90 - Stifled 91 - Natwaf 92 - Gen 92 - Cody 93 - TexWolf 93 - xx521xx 93 - Inviso 94 - junglebob 94 - MSG 95 - Raka 96 - Suor 96 - Wickle 96 - CasanovaZelos 96 - Wigs 97 - Snake5s 97 - Flubbin 98 - XIII 99 - Tazzy 100 - JONA 100 - Scepter 101 - scarlet 102 - starfox 102 - Dragon66116 102 - Luster 103 - Nick 103 - Brohan 103 - Goa 103 - KBM 105 - Arti 106 - Sorozone 106 - Steiner

Bospsy: ''I'm a sucker for cute pokémon, and Cherubi is the cutest pokémon of this gen. I highly doubt it'll find itself in the top 50, as most of b8 prefer the badass fully evolved mons. Which is a shame as while admittely being almost just a drawing of two cherries, Cherubi's cuteness strikes a chord with me.''

Paratroopa: he's got like his stillborn fetus brother hanging off his body and cherubi's just smiling like "whatever I don't give a s***"

Brayze: ''Would you still be able to eat these guys? Would they smile as first one and then the other is devoured?''

Magmortar: ''CHERRIES. I often go to TV Tropes for ideas for write-ups when talking about…less inspired Pokemon. With Cherubi, with its BLISTERING SANIC 35 base speed (hilariously enough, still faster than Sunflora), I find this gem: “Fragile Speedster: Cherubi, especially when Chlorophyll is active”. This left me in stitches and Cherubi has now actually left some type of positive impact on me. It’s terrible and CHERRIES''

Anagram:  I honestly can’t remember what cherries taste like right now

do_ob: ''A couple of dangling cherries. I'm not so offended by this compared to some others who actually compare them to a pair of "grapefruits". Besides, Cherrim looks beautiful.''

swordz: I like how it has two faces.

OrangeCrush: ''At first glance, I thought it was sort of cute. Then I noticed the multiple faces, and it's now grouped together with the other pointless honey Pokemon and Finneon line.''

Cybat: ''Perfectly reasonable design for a basic stage Grass type. But what's up with its name, is it an angel? Shame about what he evolves into, too.''

Stifled: ''There is a ruby on my chair? ''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Inviso: Garbage Grass-type, which says a lot.

junglebob: Literally some cherries with faces on them, its Pokedex entries basically treat them like food.

Raka: Cancerous

Suor: ''Its forehead looks like a vagina. It's impressive how much subliminal porn developers allowed into this game.''

Brohan: just blaze

Goa: While grass types have never done that well, its still sad when this generations bugs are more memorable than this line.

KBM: ''If its evolution were called Seraphi, I would probably like it a lot more. But they didn't go with that direction. They went with the “this is a cherry” direction. This generation, man. This generation.''

Arti: ''this is a pokemon? i forgot about it completely''

98. Bonsly (Score: 4910)
Average Ranking: 79.19 (St. Dev: 21.12) NFE Rank: 33/39 Rock Rank: 7/7 Babies: 5/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 25/29

14 - Sanity 20 - darkx 33 - Lefty 39 - CasanovaZelos 45 - MI 48 - Bane 53 - Mana 53 - Suor 55 - Drak 58 - Cody 60 - Magmortar 60 - BetrayedTangy 61 - Inviso 64 - Brayze 65 - Wickle 66 - swordz 67 - Scepter 67 - Sorozone 74 - starfox 77 - red 77 - Nick 78 - Brohan 79 - Wigs 80 - Stifled 80 - KBM 81 - Xuxon 82 - Bospsy 82 - Paratroopa 82 - do_ob 82 - xx521xx 83 - TexWolf 84 - Paul 84 - Snake5s 87 - Karo 87 - Wizards 87 - ProfDEADPOOL 87 - junglebob 87 - Luster 88 - mnk 89 - Dragon66116 91 - Comm 92 - Logicblade 92 - scarlet 94 - Naye 94 - Flubbin 95 - Eddv 96 - Gen 96 - Tazzy 97 - Ecks 97 - XIII 98 - Cybat 98 - Ermine 99 - MSG 99 - Arti 100 - Natwaf 101 - Goa 102 - Raka 103 - FrostHarpy 104 - Anagram 105 - OrangeCrush 105 - JONA 107 - Steiner

Sanity: ''One of my fav Pokemon to come out of Pokeballs in Smash games. It’s not that he’s that great, but he’s interactive and fun to use. Just toss this little guy around and SO MUCH DAMAGE.''

Magmortar: ''…still a baby. HOWEVER, Bonsly gets massive bonus points for being usable in Pokemon XD (albeit in a bingo level where you can’t see its stats), being the only Pokemon you can use prior to its proper debut, plus I love Sudowoodo to near-pieces (a hell of a lot more than Mr. Mime).''

Inviso: I like using it in Brawl.

Brayze: ''oh holy crap I just got that he's supposed to be a bonsai! All this time I just thought he was supposed to be the first inkling of my pure, crystalline hatred for gen 4. actually no bonsly isn't horrid. We're not into horrid quite yet.''

swordz: One of the few baby Pokemon I like and with a pretty neat concept to go along with what it evolves into

Brohan: ''all I remember about bonsly is pokemon xd. in which it existed''

Stifled: Head out into the Bonsly Garden and meditate.

Bospsy: ''It's okay as a baby pokémon, but I didn't particularly care for it in the anime nor for its evolution. ''

Paratroopa: ''brayze gave me a bonsly in an egg for my alpha sapphire run. I named it forrest dump. this endeared me enough to bonsly that I raised it all the way to #82''

do_ob: The only notable thing I remember you doing is that you gave Brock his first caught rock type since he started his journey with Ash.

junglebob: ''Bonsly ranks this high just for being a heavy object to throw around in Brawl. I'm bummed it's not in Smash 4.''

Ecks: ''Why does Sudowoodo of all things get a baby? It's at least moderately cute.''

XIII: ''Really. Did we really need this.''

Cybat: ''Not as clever as its parent but not too bad for a baby. He's kinda cute but sadly mostly useless in Brawl though.''

Ermine: So bad and awful.

Arti: bonsly has the advabtage over munchlax by being a decent projectile in brawl, but it still sucks being a baby pokemon in the actual games

Natwaf: NFE BABY trash.

Goa: Not bad as Bonsai, but still a baby Pokemon.

Raka: Odd

Anagram: I’ve never really raised a plant in my life, so I don’t have much to say on this end

OrangeCrush: ''It's ugly, it's a baby for a Pokemon no one cared about, and despite this it was one of the first Gen 4 Pokemon revealed. Though I suppose it was a good representitive for the huge horde of ugly and pointless Pokemon this gen introduced.''

97. Phione (Score: 4860)
Average Ranking: 78.39 (St. Dev: 26.28) Fully Evolved Rank: 65/68 Water Rank: 14/14 Legendary Rank: 14/14

9 - Lefty 16 - Bane 20 - Xuxon 25 - darkx 30 - Karo 31 - Drak 36 - swordz 38 - Paratroopa 39 - Brohan 42 - Tazzy 53 - Wickle 59 - Bospsy 60 - do_ob 62 - Luster 63 - KBM 64 - Paul 69 - Steiner 70 - xx521xx 70 - XIII 73 - Goa 74 - Mana 74 - FrostHarpy 75 - scarlet 76 - Sanity 79 - Comm 80 - MI 80 - MSG 81 - OrangeCrush 86 - Scepter 86 - Sorozone 87 - CasanovaZelos 87 - Suor 87 - Wigs 88 - Wizards 89 - Brayze 89 - JONA 92 - Ermine 93 - junglebob 94 - TexWolf 95 - red 95 - Cybat 97 - Logicblade 97 - Arti 98 - Magmortar 98 - Nick 100 - Snake5s 100 - Flubbin 100 - Eddv 100 - Ecks 100 - Anagram 101 - BetrayedTangy 101 - starfox 103 - Stifled 103 - Gen 104 - Dragon66116 104 - Natwaf 105 - ProfDEADPOOL 106 - Inviso 106 - Naye 107 - Cody 107 - mnk 107 - Raka

swordz: It can't evolve into Manaphy, but it's still pretty cute and that counts for a lot in this gen

Paratroopa: ''I had phione lower than manaphy for the longest time but I finally decided to bump him up when I realized I like his design more. manaphy has like weird blobby legs while phione just has a sort of stump and he floats around, and there's basically no other difference between the two. phione's better''

Brohan: the hot twin

Bospsy: ''So much better than Manaphy, it's not even close. Phione at least looks cute, even though it's largly irrelevant otherwise.''

do_ob: Blue cute blob.

XIII: Well this is f***ing pointless and stupid

Goa: I can't really tell parent and child apart.

MSG: ''I seriously did not know there were two little blue legendaries until I began ranking. So that was fun to learn.''

OrangeCrush: ''Why does this exist? And why is it banned? Gamefreak allowed Zoroark in B/W even though it was event and egg only at the time, but apparently Phione isn't popular enough to be given the same treatment or something.''

Suor: ''I have to admit, I still have a hard time distinguishing Phione from Manaphy. Not that I ever felt compelled to learn the differences between the worst Mew archetype ever and its clone.''

Wigs: ring ring ring ring ring bananaphione

Brayze: why did they come up with so many ways to make crappy pokemon this gen?

Ermine: No

junglebob: The idea of a fake legendary is funny enough for me to rank Phione above the real deal.

Cybat: ''Not even that bad design-wise, but it's this low because, well, why the **** can't it evolve? What is it for? Why would anyone want it over Manaphy? Seriously, I'm so confused.''

Arti: ''i got this from pokemon ranch. it was a waste of time.''

Magmortar: ''Really, what’s the point? I think this generation isn’t that bad in terms of…well, bad Pokemon (note: I have since regretted saying these words). It IS bad when it comes to ****ing pointless Pokemon like Phione. What the **** man''

Flubbin: What a dumb and useless Pokemon.

Anagram: I know nothing about sea slugs

starfox: ''Gen IV introduced a lot of pointless legendaries. Even though the status of this one as a legendary is debatable, its mere existence is certainly the most baffling.''

Stifled: ''The whole point of Legendary Pokemon is they are one of a kind and can’t reproduce. So you’re telling me now this is a baby of a Legendary Pokemon? Get the f*** out of my game, you floaty blue paradox. ''

Gen: ''14 legendaries in this generation, and one of them a f***ing baby. I can't not place this in my bottom 5. I can't NOT!''

Natwaf: WE DON'T WANT LEGENDARY BABIES THAT ARE AWFUL I MEAN GODDAMN

ProfDEADPOOL: Ahaha the concept is a bit interesting but…too worthless

Inviso: Why the f*** does this thing exist?

Raka: Useless

96. Finneon (Score: 4706)
Average Ranking: 75.91 (St. Dev: 25.29) NFE Rank: 32/39 Water Rank: 13/14 Finneon Line: 2/2

2 - Paratroopa 12 - Lefty 22 - Suor 24 - xx521xx 28 - Brayze 30 - Naye 31 - Ermine 41 - Xuxon 46 - Ecks 49 - Raka 53 - TexWolf 54 - Drak 56 - Bospsy 63 - Bane 66 - Karo 66 - Magmortar 68 - Gen 69 - Logicblade 69 - Eddv 69 - Anagram 70 - Sanity 70 - Cody 71 - swordz 77 - Wickle 77 - OrangeCrush 78 - Snake5s 80 - Tazzy 81 - MI 81 - Sorozone 81 - Wizards 83 - Wigs 84 - KBM 85 - FrostHarpy 85 - junglebob 86 - Comm 86 - Arti 89 - Goa 89 - mnk 90 - JONA 91 - Steiner 91 - scarlet 91 - Inviso 92 - Brohan 92 - Paul 92 - Cybat 93 - Scepter 94 - CasanovaZelos 94 - red 96 - darkx 96 - MSG 97 - starfox 99 - Luster 99 - Natwaf 99 - ProfDEADPOOL 102 - Mana 102 - Flubbin 102 - Stifled 103 - do_ob 103 - BetrayedTangy 105 - Dragon66116 106 - XIII 106 - Nick

Paratroopa: ''people hate this thing for some reason. he is a super cute fish with a really sleek design. look at that kickass racing stripe he's got going on. these things would be the most awesome fish to have an aquarium''

Brayze: ''People are going to hate this thing because it's useless but I'd like to see how well they did in a pokemon battle. Internet dork used inhaler. It's not very effective. Internet dork whited out''

Ermine: Simple yet nice design IMO.

Ecks: A generic fish, but it's a generic fish with a pleasant design.

Raka: Decorative

Magmortar: ''Although Finneon is cute and small and generally at least SLIGHTLY memorable, it being an annoying little bugger to find out in regards to..not having been ranked the first time, means I now have a lower opinion of it. I need sleep, damnit!''

Anagram: I’d kind of like to get a small aquarium, but I’m sure I’d take poor care of the fish, so eh, screw it

swordz: ''I really like the design of Finneon. I mean sure it's the billionth fish, but the colors are great.''

OrangeCrush: ''Why does this exist? It's bland, not useful in battle, unintentionally rare because no one wants to fish lategame when they already have a team. It's only here to get the number of Gen 4 Pokemon above 100.''

KBM: It's a fish.

Comm: One of the most boring Pokemon ever created, but everything lower than it on my list is downright offensive.

Arti: ''oh cool another eevee evo... wait what?''

Inviso: Useless Water-type when there's too many already.

Brohan: convince this isnt a real pokemon

Cybat: "OK, I want you to just take a picture of a fish and call that a Pokemon design. Also, give it an unnecessarily confusing name. Perfect, time for a lunch break."

Natwaf: ''NFE Trash designed because they realized they haven't made a random fish for Sinnoh yet. Pfft.''

Flubbin: ''I always forget this thing exists. ''

Stifled: Boring fish, can’t eat it, etc. 

do_ob: I hope my guess about Lumineon looking worse than Finneon is correct.

XIII: See my Lumineon writeup.

95. Bronzor (Score: 4690)
Average Ranking: 75.65 (St. Dev: 20.64) NFE Rank: 31/39 Steel Rank: 10/10 Psychic Rank: 8/9 Bronzor Line: 2/2

8 - Lefty 25 - Brayze 36 - Tazzy 42 - TexWolf 49 - Steiner 50 - Goa 50 - Luster 51 - Paratroopa 52 - Natwaf 53 - Wigs 53 - Drak 54 - BetrayedTangy 56 - Eddv 58 - ProfDEADPOOL 59 - Wizards 59 - CasanovaZelos 62 - Arti 63 - JONA 66 - Anagram 67 - MSG 68 - Ermine 72 - Brohan 75 - KBM 75 - xx521xx 76 - Karo 77 - Gen 77 - Inviso 77 - mnk 78 - Cybat 79 - Stifled 79 - MI 79 - darkx 80 - Suor 80 - do_ob 81 - Naye 82 - starfox 83 - junglebob 83 - Sanity 86 - Cody 88 - scarlet 88 - Nick 89 - Ecks 89 - Paul 90 - Wickle 92 - Dragon66116 92 - Magmortar 93 - FrostHarpy 94 - Bane 95 - Mana 96 - Sorozone 96 - XIII 96 - OrangeCrush 96 - Snake5s 96 - Xuxon 97 - Raka 98 - swordz 99 - Comm 99 - red 101 - Flubbin 102 - Bospsy 102 - Logicblade 102 - Scepter

Brayze: ''He's a gong with eyes, I like him because he needs to be cranked right in the face in order to fulfill his function, just like a woman!!!! But actually this is about ethics in pokemon ranking''

Paratroopa: bronzor has only one expression and that expression is "creepily watching you pleasure yourself"

Natwaf: ''THE ZOR! Simple, yet it resonates within me''

Arti: ''i laughed the first time i saw this... thing, but the novelty of it has worn off a while ago''

Anagram: The Iron Age would totally kick the Bronze Age’s butt in a fight

MSG: Heaviest Frisbee ever

KBM: ''This thing drove me the f*** insane when I played through Gen IV. I will be the first to admit that I didn't have the best team in the world, but still. It's resistant to so much and its defense stats are so good and oh my God at least it hasn't evolved yet because when it does ahhhhhh I hate Mount Coronet it's f****** everywhere.''

Inviso: Cuter than Bronzong, but not great.

Cybat: I wonder if people used to exchange Bronzors as currency?

Stifled: The ashtray Pokemon?

Suor: Yeah, not even kidding.

do_ob: Made me think of the time when Randy Orton busted Cody Rhodes open the hard way.

Magmortar: ''WHY WON’T YOU DIE. Seriously too many trainers had these and just oh my god **** this thing. When I was grinding something that wasn’t my Fire-type and saw a Bronzor I just went “okay this is stupid”''

OrangeCrush: This thing is way too damn bulky for how common it is.

Raka: Nondescript

swordz: ''What is this supposed to be? A coin with a nose? Whatever it is it's dumb.''

Comm: Why is this even a thing

Bospsy: ''I have some very bad memories of Bronzor, I hated facing it in Diamond as I didn't have any fire pokémon and the rest of my team wasn't great at killing steel. So it's probably lower than it otherwise would have been, but its design is still bad. ''

94. Tangrowth (Score: 4676)
Average Ranking: 75.42 (St. Dev: 26.75) Fully Evolved Rank: 64/68 Grass Rank: 11/14 Part of a Preexisting Line: 24/29

6 - Xuxon 17 - XIII 19 - darkx 25 - mnk 26 - JONA 33 - Eddv 38 - Steiner 46 - Magmortar 47 - Natwaf 48 - Sanity 48 - Cody 50 - junglebob 50 - OrangeCrush 52 - Lefty 52 - Stifled 53 - scarlet 53 - Comm 59 - FrostHarpy 63 - xx521xx 64 - Inviso 64 - Naye 65 - TexWolf 66 - Suor 66 - starfox 75 - Bospsy 77 - Goa 77 - Karo 77 - Flubbin 78 - Luster 81 - Brohan 82 - MSG 84 - Dragon66116 85 - ProfDEADPOOL 85 - Raka 87 - Sorozone 88 - CasanovaZelos 88 - Paul 88 - Mana 89 - Arti 96 - BetrayedTangy 96 - Bane 96 - swordz 97 - Cybat 98 - KBM 99 - Wigs 99 - Nick 99 - Logicblade 100 - Wizards 100 - Ermine 100 - Gen 102 - Tazzy 102 - MI 102 - Wickle 103 - Drak 103 - Anagram 103 - red 103 - Scepter 105 - Brayze 105 - Ecks 105 - Snake5s 106 - Paratroopa 106 - do_ob

XIII: MOJOMBO RULES HERE

Magmortar: ''this guy is pretty hilarious. “how do we evolve a bunch of vines anyway” “make it more vines, fatter vines, also give it arms and stubby little flat legs” oh my god, this guy is brilliant (and a fairly useful and very hard hitting wall-the four stats are at least 100 thing is awesome). I also love how, despite being an evolution of an old Pokemon, in D/P you can’t even capture its Pre-Evo. Funny stuff.''

Natwaf: ''I love this one doujin by Kitsune Tsuki about May and Whitney. It was called "Drug Abuse Is Bad". Don't google it. Battlewise, really bulky. Stopped my Medicham from Hi-Jump Kick OHKO madness.''

Stifled: ''Scyther is a logical Pokemon to fight Tangrowth with since people use machetes to cut vines. But Cut is a normal type move and will do little to no damage to Tangrowth. Oh, Pokemon. ''

Inviso: Cool Japanese name, but useless.

Suor: Mojombo rules nothing.

Goa: ''Like them or hate them, most of the new evolutions make their lines much better. Sadly I've never noticed Tangrowth to do that much better than Tangela.''

Karo: Continues the gen 4 theme of ruining a cool pokemon with a stupid evolution.

Flubbin: MOJOMBO saves it from the bottom, but yeah, it's still pretty bad.

MSG: I didn't like Tangela, don't like Tangrowth.

Raka: Messy

Arti: ''more vines equals arms apparently? i don't understand''

swordz: Oh look another bad evolution for something nobody cared about

Cybat: ''I kind of like Tangela so I was excited when I found out it was going to evolve. Unfortunately it turns out that it evolves into a creepy bush monster. Regenerator is cool though.''

KBM: Why the hell did Tangela need to grow monkey arms?

Wigs: get a haircut you damn hippie

Wizards: A bigger, uglier tangela.

Ermine: Tangela did not deserve nor need an evolution, let alone an awful one.

Gen: Allow me to tell you where Mojumbo really'' rules: nowhere. Having a cool alternate name does not a cool pokémon make no matter how much you repeat it, particularly if you're as useless and stupid-looking as Tangrowth. Did anyone actually give half a f*** about Tangela in the first place? Why does this s*** even exist?''

Anagram: ''I love driving along a street of normal houses, then finding one with a bunch of overgrown vines over the outer walls. Makes it look cool and unique''

Brayze: ''If I said tangela was good... or even passable... I would be lying, but tangrowth tops the sheer stupidity of 'ball of vines with eyes' by making it bigger, grosser, and giving it a pair of malformed, swaying arms. Tangrowth is the worst grass type in the game and is definitely in the bottom 10 of all pokemon of all time''

Ecks: It's honestly impressive how they managed to create so many hideous evolutions to already existing Pokemon in this gen. Trim that s***, Tangrowth.

Paratroopa: ''looking at this thing actually makes me like physically uncomfortable. I feel like I need to bathe now''

do_ob: ''Tangela is a somewhat lovable vine ball. Tangrowth is a horribly mutated mound of vines that can supposedly swing around trees and vines like a chimpanzee. This is an extremely disturbing mental image.''

93. Chingling (Score: 4662)
Average Ranking: 75.19 (St. Dev: 29.66) NFE Rank: 30/39 Psychic Rank: 7/9 Babies: 4/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 23/29

6 - Eddv 9 - Comm 13 - Bospsy 17 - do_ob 20 - MI 25 - Flubbin 27 - Nick 29 - Paratroopa 30 - Lefty 30 - MSG 32 - Brayze 33 - Drak 36 - JONA 47 - Wickle 63 - Mana 65 - xx521xx 67 - Paul 68 - KBM 70 - darkx 76 - Xuxon 76 - swordz 77 - Luster 78 - Ermine 78 - red 79 - Inviso 79 - Sorozone 81 - Suor 81 - Logicblade 84 - Sanity 84 - OrangeCrush 85 - scarlet 86 - Goa 88 - Stifled 89 - Steiner 89 - FrostHarpy 89 - Karo 89 - Brohan 89 - BetrayedTangy 90 - Naye 92 - Anagram 94 - XIII 94 - Gen 95 - Arti 95 - Tazzy 97 - TexWolf 99 - Scepter 99 - Ecks 99 - Snake5s 100 - Raka 101 - Magmortar 101 - ProfDEADPOOL 101 - Bane 102 - Cody 103 - Natwaf 103 - starfox 103 - Wigs 104 - Cybat 105 - mnk 105 - junglebob 105 - CasanovaZelos 105 - Wizards 106 - Dragon66116

Comm: CHING CHING GETTIN PAID OVER HERE

Bospsy: ''Chingling is too cute. I'd love to have a couple of them chilling in the house. Wouldn't take them on an adventure, but not every pokémon needs to be battle material. Chingling certainly isn't.''

do_ob: ''Not a lot of people like this little guy. I do. :3 Ring ring!''

Flubbin: ''CHING CHING GETTING' PAID! I hold him in high regard for being the original Pokegauntlet dream.''

Paratroopa: yeah there's no chance of this guy making any major waves on this list but dude he's cool and hilarious and I don't care that you forgot he existed

MSG: THE DREAM

Brayze: okay it's a little bell thing and a completely unnecessary prevo BUT chingling is awesome and you can put a bunch on a belt and whip them around, causing them to produce a cheery jingle as they experience basically pure terror

KBM: ''Why did CHIMECHO need a pre-evo? I mean, what is the bloody point? CHIMECHO?! (At least it's kind of cute.)''

swordz: I like the design, but it didn't need to exist like most baby Pokemon

Inviso: Unnecessary baby Pokemon.

Suor: This is a pokémon that exists and is annoying and useless.

OrangeCrush: What did Chimecho do to deserve a baby?

Stifled: ''Chingity ching. HE-HAW! HE-HAW! It’s Dominic the Donkey!''

Karo: Why does this thing even need to exist?

Anagram: ''I stopped eating at Taco Bell years ago. I actually feel very slightly healthier, though it could be my imagination''

Arti: ''i liked chimecho but it definitely did not need a baby form. well no pokemon needs a baby form, but eh''

Raka: Indefensible

Magmortar: ''Chimecho needed an evolution even more than Wigglytuff did. Chingling’s very existence, even more than Igglybuff’s, is complete bullcrap. What the **** Gamefreak''

Bane: ''I just don't know what this thing is. It's kind of cute but what.''

Natwaf: ''An already awful pokemon gets a baby. Yeah. What's amazing is that it's not the worst of the lot.''

Wigs: ''oh its a bell. ok.''

Cybat: ''I like Chimecho a lot but I can't bring myself to rank this thing any higher. Again, WHY?''

Wizards: ''I take back what I said about Igglybuff, this is the worst baby pokemon. Its ugly, useless in battle, doesn't evolve into anything good, and its name sounds racist. It looks like Ike from South Park.''

92. Cherrim (Score: 4600)
Average Ranking: 74.19 (St. Dev: 21.03) Fully Evolved Rank: 63/68 Grass Rank: 9/14 Cherubi Line: 1/2

15 - Paratroopa 23 - Karo 27 - do_ob 34 - Xuxon 37 - Scepter 44 - Raka 49 - swordz 50 - Brayze 51 - Lefty 54 - Anagram 56 - Drak 56 - Ermine 56 - Naye 57 - darkx 58 - scarlet 61 - Ecks 63 - Natwaf 67 - KBM 68 - Sanity 68 - Dragon66116 69 - FrostHarpy 69 - Tazzy 69 - Cody 70 - MI 71 - Wizards 72 - Mana 73 - ProfDEADPOOL 74 - Gen 74 - junglebob 75 - Comm 75 - Bane 76 - Inviso 79 - xx521xx 79 - red 80 - Luster 80 - Steiner 82 - mnk 83 - Paul 84 - JONA 86 - MSG 87 - XIII 88 - Eddv 89 - OrangeCrush 89 - Stifled 90 - BetrayedTangy 90 - Snake5s 91 - Flubbin 91 - Wickle 91 - TexWolf 93 - Logicblade 93 - Magmortar 95 - starfox 95 - CasanovaZelos 96 - Cybat 97 - Wigs 100 - Nick 101 - Bospsy 101 - Suor 102 - Goa 102 - Brohan 102 - Arti 103 - Sorozone

Paratroopa: "what would we get if we crossed bellossom with the eggplant wizard" "I DUNNO LET'S FIND OUT"

do_ob: ''You look like )))) when not in Sunny Day. But when Sunny Day comes, you bloom into a beautiful flower. I even feel happy when I see you bloom.''

Raka: Happy

swordz: ''I wish it didn't need the sun up to reveal its true look. It looks so much better when it's not covered up.''

Brayze: this gimmick is wasted on you!

Anagram: ''I’m taking a biology class. Let no one ever tell you that the human muscular system isn’t ludicrously complicated, or that the terminology isn’t completely insane and arbitrary''

Natwaf: Oh if only I could use Cherrim + Groudon in Frontier/Subway/Maison.

KBM: ''Gains points largely because Sunshine Form is super-cute. It just looks SO happy. Still not good, though.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Would be higher if it was always in the sunny form. But I don't like the overcast at all.''

junglebob: It's sunny form is okay, but its default form is extremely dull.

Inviso: I wish it was always in its Sunny Day form.

MSG: ''Just make it the bright red one and leave the cloudy version out. So dumb.''

OrangeCrush: He hides his appearance because he knows he's ugly.

Stifled: ''I like apples. ''

Magmortar: ''When the sun comes out it turns from locked up spiky haired My Chemical Romance blasting teenager to dumb fun blossom that may or may have not been created to be a partner for Groudon (why does it boost special defense instead of special attack). To me, both designs are terrible, and it is just SO completely forgettable. Personally, I prefer Sunflora when I need a stupid as **** Grass-type that gets better in the sun because Sunflora is funny, and it evolves from ****ing Sunkern.''

Cybat: ''Seriously looks like placeholder art that someone forgot to update before they sent it to the spriters. And even its "real" form is pretty dumb looking. And still useless.''

Suor: ''XFD Cherrim, the best thing in life you could do is stay hidden forever, for you are hideous regardless of your form. ''

Goa: While grass types have never done that well, its still sad when this generations bugs are more memorable than this line.

Arti: ''and considering i forgot the preevo i forgot this one too. needs weather to do anything, and looks stupid otherwise''

91. Stunky (Score: 4527)
Average Ranking: 73.02 (St. Dev: 23.93) NFE Rank: 29/39 Poison Rank: 7/8 Dark Rank: 7/7 Stunky Line: 2/2

19 - Brayze 19 - Sanity 24 - Inviso 26 - Ermine 32 - MI 33 - red 35 - Lefty 39 - Karo 41 - Snake5s 42 - mnk 49 - Anagram 51 - xx521xx 53 - CasanovaZelos 58 - Mana 59 - ProfDEADPOOL 60 - Ecks 61 - starfox 64 - Xuxon 64 - Wickle 66 - Bospsy 69 - Scepter 70 - Cybat 71 - Brohan 72 - Magmortar 72 - Nick 74 - Drak 74 - darkx 74 - Eddv 75 - junglebob 76 - Tazzy 77 - Comm 77 - Sorozone 78 - Paratroopa 78 - Arti 79 - Logicblade 80 - Flubbin 81 - Raka 83 - Cody 84 - Suor 85 - TexWolf 86 - KBM 87 - BetrayedTangy 88 - Gen 89 - scarlet 90 - Bane 90 - Wigs 91 - MSG 94 - Wizards 94 - Stifled 95 - Natwaf 95 - XIII 96 - Dragon66116 96 - FrostHarpy 96 - Goa 97 - do_ob 97 - JONA 98 - Steiner 103 - OrangeCrush 104 - Naye 105 - swordz 105 - Paul 107 - Luster

Brayze: ''We all known wurmple had a mouth like a butt. However stunky is clearly deliberate, it has a butt face and also a cry that sounds like a fart and is a skunk. How can anyone dislike this classy, elegant design????''

Sanity: ''The name alone is worth a high ranking. Skunks are neat though.''

Inviso: ''Adorable skunk. This is vcharon! :D''

Anagram: ''I once saw a skunk near my parents’ house, which is in the center of coyoteville. I have no idea how it survived. If it survived''

Bospsy: ''This picture (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/74/Officer_Jenny_Stunky.png) bumped Stunky a couple of places up for me. What kind of random cop sidekick is that? An awesome one! Still not a great pokémon though.''

Cybat: ''Well, it's a skunk. And its name is fun to say. ''

Magmortar: ''Simple put, I think Stunky…stinks. It even LOOKS like a butt.''

Paratroopa: a stinky skunk with an obvious butt for a face has obvious comedic appeal in a very crude way

Arti: ''a stunk pokemon. ok, sure. whatever''

Raka: Below Average

Suor: ''Pop culture in cartoons taught me that skunks stink, which is gross, which is why Stunky can't be anything good. Also assface.''

KBM: Poison/Dark typing deserves way better than this.

Stifled: ''Stunky being better than its evolution is like herpes being preferred to gonorrhea. ''

Natwaf: Ugly NFE Trash

Goa: ''I know people give gamefreak a lot of crap about reusing Pokemon ideas, but did we really need a skunk Pokemon. As far as bad animals go, a mosquito is about the only thing worse. Oh please, don't do that in generation VII!''

do_ob: ''I'm sure Stunky looks much better in the Sugimori art. But its sprite turned out to be a misshapened purple hair ball. I don't like that.''

OrangeCrush: ''He has a butt on his face. Sadly he's still better than his evolution.''

swordz: ''It's definitely a skunk. You can tell by how much the design stinks''

90. Lumineon (Score: 4518)
Average Ranking: 72.87 (St. Dev: 25.70) Fully Evolved Rank: 62/68 Water Rank: 12/14 Finneon Line: 1/2

4 - Paratroopa 10 - Lefty 10 - Naye 15 - Xuxon 20 - Suor 34 - Brayze 37 - mnk 41 - Karo 41 - Wickle 43 - Gen 44 - TexWolf 48 - Raka 50 - Ecks 54 - FrostHarpy 61 - Bane 62 - Drak 65 - Snake5s 69 - Sanity 69 - MI 69 - Dragon66116 69 - Luster 70 - Eddv 71 - Bospsy 72 - scarlet 74 - Logicblade 74 - Steiner 76 - OrangeCrush 77 - Arti 79 - Tazzy 80 - xx521xx 80 - Wizards 82 - Sorozone 82 - KBM 82 - Wigs 83 - Anagram 83 - Cybat 83 - Comm 84 - Brohan 86 - Inviso 86 - Natwaf 88 - Ermine 88 - Scepter 88 - Cody 88 - Goa 89 - Nick 92 - MSG 92 - Stifled 93 - red 93 - CasanovaZelos 93 - swordz 93 - Paul 95 - junglebob 96 - Flubbin 97 - BetrayedTangy 99 - starfox 99 - Magmortar 100 - ProfDEADPOOL 100 - darkx 102 - JONA 103 - Mana 104 - do_ob 107 - XIII

Paratroopa: ''yeah he's not good in battle but who gives a s***, none of the guys who've won any gen so far are any prize themselves. you guys are just racist against fish, how could you hate fish, fish are our friends, you should all apologize to our fish friends right now (or eat them, they are tasty)''

Suor: ''I'd love it if some day it got actual butterfly moves like Quiver Dance or Bug Buzz. I really like Lumineon's butterfly fish design and Storm Drain is a deceptively powerful ability.''

Brayze: The grown up version of finneon and slightly less cute but still good enough to get number 34 I mean this is gen 4 come on.

Gen: ''I happen to think it's really pretty. Finneon? Yeah that's a total waste of space, but the butterflyfish it evolves into is okay in my book. Needs Quiver Dance to justify its existence though. Until then can't rank it any higher than this.''

Raka: Luminous

OrangeCrush: ''Why does this exist? It's bland, not useful in battle, unintentionally rare because no one wants to fish lategame when they already have a team. It's only here to get the number of Gen 4 Pokemon above 100.''

Arti: ''the evolution of the fake eevee evo. not really anything impressive either''

KBM: ''It's just a fish. Albeit a slightly more majestic one than Finneon.''

Anagram: ''I accidentally erased Lumineon from the list while making this. It took me literally days to notice. That's how little I care about Lumineon''

Cybat: ''It's just another fish. A prettier fish, granted, but this thing doesn't get any move, ability, or stat distribution that would make it the slightest bit interesting.''

Brohan: dont even remember this one

Inviso: Useless Water-type when there's too many already.

Natwaf: ''Trash designed because they realized they haven't made a random fish for Sinnoh yet. Pfft.''

Goa: ''Yeah we don't need more water types, but I don't really get the hate. Besides, I like the design.''

Stifled: ''Yeah I was totally thinking when I booted up this game for the first time that we needed more derpy fish Pokemon. ''

swordz: Nobody cares about any -eons unless they're Eevee evolutions.

Magmortar: Pointless.

darkx: Why the f*** do you even exist?

do_ob: ''Iirc, this line of fishes are a bunch of blue clown fishes. And I recall hating their whiskers. Usually, the evolved form of an ugly poke looks worse than its pre-evolved form. So there you go. ''

XIII: ''Absolutely the worst Pokemon of all time. I can't believe Game Freak saw fit to introduce a Pokemon like this that has absolutely no redeeming factors. It literally annoys me that they can have a Pokemon like this, that you get in the late-game but is utterly trash. Utterly trash. Statistically poor, generic fish design...we've seen Lumineon a dozen times and that absolutely isn't good enough. People who are ambivalent to Lumineon are the people who allow Game Freak to continue putting out such useless Pokemon like this and Basculin among others. You have to hate Lumineon because you have to hold Game Freak to a higher creative standard. If you don't, then prepare for another gen with at least 5 pointless Pokemon that is nobody's favourite. Lumineon is below Finneon on my list because a fully-evolved Pokemon has a responsibility to be in some way statistically viable.''

89. Ambipom (Score: 4494)
Average Ranking: 72.48 (St. Dev: 26.06) Fully Evolved Rank: 61/68 Normal Rank: 14/17 Part of a Preexisting Line: 22/29

9 - Eddv 17 - Karo 23 - Wickle 25 - xx521xx 26 - Nick 32 - Xuxon 35 - Stifled 36 - Cybat 39 - Anagram 45 - red 45 - XIII 51 - Sorozone 52 - Brohan 52 - ProfDEADPOOL 54 - Flubbin 56 - Steiner 56 - Comm 56 - do_ob 58 - Naye 58 - Gen 62 - Goa 64 - Lefty 65 - Natwaf 66 - Arti 67 - Wigs 67 - Inviso 70 - scarlet 70 - CasanovaZelos 71 - Dragon66116 72 - swordz 75 - Scepter 76 - starfox 82 - Brayze 82 - Snake5s 82 - JONA 83 - FrostHarpy 84 - Drak 84 - Wizards 86 - Raka 86 - Paul 86 - BetrayedTangy 91 - Suor 91 - Ermine 92 - Tazzy 92 - darkx 93 - Luster 94 - Logicblade 95 - Magmortar 97 - MI 98 - Paratroopa 98 - mnk 99 - Bane 100 - KBM 101 - OrangeCrush 104 - Bospsy 105 - Sanity 106 - Ecks 106 - Cody 106 - Mana 107 - TexWolf 107 - MSG 107 - junglebob

Stifled: ''I like monkeys. I like gloves. I like monkeys with gloves. ''

Cybat: ''OK, yes, its face is weird And his tail hands are…unsettling. But Technician Fake Out and Double Hit are no joke. ''

Anagram: ''I can’t recall even a single song by The Monkies. Someone help me out here, what did they do?''

XIII: ''One of my favourite "wtf?!" sets is using Fake Out/Technician Ambipom and then Last Resort, and NO OTHER MOVE. STAB Last Resort was a lot of fun to use to blow holes in the other team - provided they weren't using Rock, Steel, Ghost or something heavily physically defensive.''

do_ob: Technician Double Hit was fun to use.

Natwaf: ''Two hands! All the better to FAKE OUT SPAM YOU! Bah. Still, love the goofy face.''

Arti: there's a better monkey line in this generation, unfortunately for ambipom.

Inviso: Unnecessary evolution and generic.

swordz: I used to love this thing as well, but now I just think it's weird compared to Aipom

Brayze: So they took the winning idea that was aipom and gave it another tail, that right there is the sort of design that puts gen 4 in a class of its own

Wizards: Two is not better than one in this case.

Raka: Unnerving

Suor: I can make a sock puppet in less than 3 minutes that looks less mentally challenged than Ambipom.

Magmortar: I guess Aipom can be cute in its own creepy-as-hell way but Ambipom is OH MY GOD, FREE ME NOW BEFORE IT DOES NAUGHTY THINGS

Paratroopa: yeah, I just really don't like monkeys, especially not ones with weird faces and tails with big inflated rubber gloves on them

Bane: ''Don't like Aipom, and this guy's worse. And oh look: yet ANOTHER creepy lookign Pokemon. Looks like he's gonna sneak into your room at night and just stare at you sleeping.''

KBM: ''This is actively horrifying to look at. Aipom I've warmed up on a LITTLE since I did that generation's list. Ambipom... No. Just no.''

OrangeCrush: His design makes me want to punch him in the face.

Sanity: Monkeys suck.

Ecks: ''What the hell is going on with this thing? Are those udder hand tails? Who thought this was a good idea?''

MSG: ''Blech. Blech blech blech. Why is Aipom back go away''

junglebob: HIDEOUS.

88. Probopass (Score: 4491)
Average Ranking: 72.44 (St. Dev: 24.30) Fully Evolved Rank: 60/68 Rock Rank: 6/7 Steel Rank: 9/10 Part of a Preexisting Line: 21/29

1 - Lefty 3 - Sanity 11 - Wigs 15 - Steiner 27 - XIII 27 - Cody 31 - MSG 34 - Natwaf 37 - Logicblade 39 - Wickle 39 - Naye 43 - junglebob 44 - Anagram 46 - Eddv 48 - Flubbin 51 - Inviso 56 - starfox 57 - CasanovaZelos 57 - Bospsy 57 - TexWolf 62 - Magmortar 63 - Brayze 64 - FrostHarpy 68 - Stifled 68 - Suor 68 - OrangeCrush 71 - Luster 73 - JONA 74 - Dragon66116 78 - Raka 78 - mnk 82 - Brohan 82 - Gen 84 - ProfDEADPOOL 84 - swordz 85 - Sorozone 85 - Bane 86 - scarlet 90 - Xuxon 91 - Paul 91 - KBM 92 - xx521xx 92 - Wizards 92 - Ecks 97 - Goa 97 - Paratroopa 97 - Mana 99 - darkx 103 - Tazzy 104 - Arti 104 - Snake5s 104 - BetrayedTangy 104 - Ermine 105 - do_ob 105 - Scepter 105 - Drak 106 - red 107 - Karo 107 - Nick 107 - Cybat 107 - Comm 107 - MI

Sanity: Not quite as cool as Nosepass, but he is good at sweeping the floor.

Wigs: ''Kosmo Trainer? Is that you?''

XIII: WHY DO I LOVE THIS GOOFY THING SO MUCH

MSG: If only the Pokedex called it the Groucho Marx Pokemon

Natwaf: ''HI-LA-RI-OUS. But for some reason this pokemon is polarizing. Actually a pretty useful teammate on my Mono-Steel Platinum run. And then Magnet Pulls became rampant. **** that ****''

junglebob: ''I am torn on Probopass: I like its goofy design, but it might be the worst Pokemon I have ever used. Why bother with a defensive Pokemon that is 4x weak to Ground and Fighting? ''

Anagram: How you doing, Ernie?

Flubbin: Too hilarious for me to hate.

Inviso: I find this hilarious, but that's all.

Bospsy: It's mainly a joke pokémon, but at least it's a well designed joke pokémon.

Magmortar: ''I think it’s a wasted opportunity. Rock/Steel is and probably will always be a terrible typing. And I don’t find it as funny-stupid as Nosepass. Probopass is just stupid.''

Brayze: Probopass is crazy dumb but I can't rank it lower than 63 without being anti-semitic

Stifled: ''Oh come on it’s funny. ''

Suor: Stupid beyond redemption, which is enough to make it better than a 33% of Gen IV's pokémon.

OrangeCrush: ''He looks stupid, but at least it was intentional. This video gives him a few bonus points too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhZQ7VwAqqM&t=1m51s''

Raka: Racist

swordz: Gets props due to that mustache and the huge nose is kind of funny.

KBM: ''I got the joke with Nosepass. This is just straight-up dumb.''

Wizards: Its a Nosepass in witness protection.

Goa: Because Pokemon totally needed more giant metal noses!

Paratroopa: ''... ...moving on''

darkx: Uglystache

Arti: hahaha it has a mustache wtf

Ermine: ''No. Go away. Never ever return.''

do_ob: ''Iron filings as mustache. No.''

Karo: ''Apparently not satisfied with their african american and mexican stereotype pokemon, gamefreak decided to make a jewish stereotype pokemon as well. No. just... just no.''

Cybat: It makes me sad to envision the series of decisions that led to this design being created.

Comm: ''The most vile thing ever created. Nosepass was bad enough, then they come up with this f***ing joke of a Pokemon. I'm ashamed we only had 107 spots this Gen, or it'd be lower than 107.''

87. Uxie (Score: 4464)
Average Ranking: 72.00 (St. Dev: 24.30) Fully Evolved Rank: 59/68 Psychic Rank: 6/9 Legendary Rank: 13/14

2 - Xuxon 22 - Brayze 23 - Paratroopa 25 - red 28 - BetrayedTangy 33 - scarlet 37 - Drak 40 - Brohan 42 - Arti 45 - Natwaf 45 - Goa 45 - Karo 51 - Ermine 52 - Luster 56 - XIII 56 - FrostHarpy 60 - Steiner 60 - KBM 61 - OrangeCrush 64 - do_ob 66 - Ecks 67 - starfox 67 - Bane 68 - Flubbin 71 - Stifled 71 - Comm 73 - Wigs 74 - Lefty 74 - Tazzy 75 - Eddv 75 - Dragon66116 77 - Magmortar 78 - Suor 83 - Sorozone 84 - MI 85 - CasanovaZelos 85 - Bospsy 86 - Logicblade 87 - JONA 88 - xx521xx 89 - MSG 89 - Wickle 89 - TexWolf 89 - swordz 89 - Wizards 89 - darkx 90 - Anagram 90 - ProfDEADPOOL 92 - Nick 93 - Naye 93 - Snake5s 95 - Sanity 95 - mnk 96 - junglebob 97 - Gen 98 - Scepter 99 - Inviso 99 - Cybat 100 - Mana 104 - Cody 104 - Raka 104 - Paul

Brayze: ''My favorite of the uh... Pixie? Trio. Uxie has sleepy eyes and just sorta floats there and sucks a hundred dongs in battle. His eyes are closed because he's tired of being part of such a crap trio''

Paratroopa: definitely the best of the fairies because he obviously gives the fewest s***s

Arti: legendary pixie 3

Natwaf: ''The worst of the Lake Trio, something about it's always closed eyes. Or maybe the color yellow. I dunno. The Mirror languishes at 45.''

XIII: Not as good as Azelf.

KBM: Why are there three of these?

do_ob: ''It doesn't really matter how I rank you three in your own little group. You three elves are so similar in looks.''

Stifled: ''I would normally put the yellow one in first place but they gave it the worst overall design. Kind of like how the Pittsburgh Steelers are a colossal waste of yellow. ''

Comm: The legendary trio no one cares about, and it's asleep.

Magmortar: No. That said, I guess in battle it can be kind of cool, tanky U-turn/SR setter is kind of neat, and in generally I find it a whole lot less completely obnoxious than wallduck.

Suor: If Brock was a pokémon.

swordz: Ugliest of the trio, but has served me well recently.

Anagram: ''As a kid, in the Boy Scouts, our troop gave everyone nicknames. One kid was Smart Kid, another was Strong Kid, et cetera. I was Sleepy Kid because I yawned a lot and they couldn’t think of anything else that was distinctive''

junglebob: Hey it's another member of this lame trio: the one with the stupid hat!

Gen: ''This pokémon just rubs me the wrong way. Look at it! The little arse looks like its asleep and it doesn't have nearly the amount of street cred it needs to pull that look off unlike Abra or Snorlax. (And yes I read the pokédex entries.)''

Inviso: Ugliest member of the Psychic trio.

Cybat: ''I would have never expected to have any legendary Pokemon this low, but I cannot stand these stupid pixies. They're all the same type, have a boring ability, look dumb, and have weird names. And this one is the dumbest and weirdest.''

Raka: Forgettable

86. Regigigas (Score: 4445)
Average Ranking: 71.69 (St. Dev: 27.37) Fully Evolved Rank: 58/68 Normal Rank: 13/17 Legendary Rank: 12/14

4 - Wigs 9 - scarlet 16 - Natwaf 19 - Snake5s 22 - Nick 23 - Tazzy 26 - Lefty 32 - Paul 38 - KBM 44 - Magmortar 45 - Bospsy 47 - Bane 48 - Cybat 49 - Wickle 51 - Luster 56 - JONA 57 - mnk 59 - darkx 61 - ProfDEADPOOL 61 - Sanity 62 - Stifled 65 - Sorozone 66 - Brayze 66 - red 67 - OrangeCrush 75 - Goa 76 - Brohan 76 - Naye 77 - MSG 77 - TexWolf 78 - Anagram 80 - junglebob 81 - XIII 82 - FrostHarpy 82 - Comm 84 - BetrayedTangy 84 - Karo 85 - Steiner 86 - do_ob 86 - swordz 88 - starfox 88 - Dragon66116 89 - Xuxon 89 - Ermine 90 - Flubbin 91 - Paratroopa 91 - Ecks 91 - Scepter 93 - Wizards 95 - xx521xx 99 - Gen 99 - Raka 100 - Arti 100 - MI 101 - Drak 101 - Cody 105 - Mana 106 - Suor 106 - Logicblade 107 - Eddv 107 - CasanovaZelos 107 - Inviso

Wigs: gigigigigigigigigigigigigigigigigigigi

Natwaf: ''Love the Lore and how it looks. But holy ****, how did they even give something WORSE than Truant to it? Some pokemon needed balancing, but they dragged this guy WAY down. Aww yeah Huge Power Regigigas. Come on Gamefreak, make a Primal/Mega Regigigas with that ability. Or an even more overpowered ability.''

KBM: ''I seem to be the only person who likes the Legendary Golems. That being said, their master should have been something... I don't know... else. Not that Regigigas is BAD, per se (although it always looks like you've misspelled his name with far too many G's and I's), but the best part of its design is the little leafy things. And it doesn't really look like much of a Master of anything (although that's partially because you can never really see it to its 12-foot scale).''

Magmortar: ''The worst battling legendary ever? Probably. As another user put it, Slow Start makes Truant look like Intimidate. But expanding upon an old legendary trio, one that always felt kind of…there, is a nice touch. Although I always hated the fact you needed that trio just to catch one (even though it makes sense, it isn’t CONVIENENT, especially in gen 4 games where you couldn’t even catch the trio). And that it is at level 1 in Platinum for some reason.''

Cybat: ''What the **** am I looking at here? Just…wow. And that sure is a lot of g's in the name. Even so, I like the concept of an ancient Pokemon slowly waking up, and the small amount of story it has with the other Regis is kinda neat. It's funny how all 4 Regis are weak to Fighting. ''

Stifled: ggggggggggggggggg

Brayze: ''another genius idea from gen 4: more regis. Was there some sort of crisis happening in Japan when these games were made? Maybe this was the crisis.''

OrangeCrush: ''He's the worst of the Regis, but finished a lot higher proportionately to the Hoenn Regis. Just goes to show how much garbage Gen 4 has.''

Goa: Only good for being annoying to catch and for the occasional upset if it actually get going.

Anagram: ''Remember Jade Empire? It was Bioware’s last attempt at originality. I remember being annoyed that this Chinese mythology-inspired setting had Jewish mythology-inspired golems in it''

XIII: ''Regis aren't good. Didn't need a leader. And Slow Start is obnoxious and awful.''

do_ob: ''For a leader of a legendary trio, Regigigas just screams of wasted potential. I'm sure the art department could've come up with something better that looks more like Titan Gaia than this. I can't use it to battle either thanks to Slow Start.''

swordz: ''It actually kind of looks neat, but is held back by its ability. I get why it has it, but it still sucks.''

Paratroopa: hahahaha oh f*** it's so stupid and terrible that I can't not like it at least a LITTLE bit

Wizards: Ruined a great trio.

Gen: ''Did the world really need another golem? Did the golem really need an inhibiting ability? I mean I guess it makes sense from a mythical perspective since it's been asleep for centuries, but damn that ability makes it nearly useless. Still better than Slaking though.'' Raka: Lame

Arti: the worst legendary

Suor: ''Everyone loved Regis so OF COURSE you go and make a Normal Regi with the worst possible ability to have as a legendary pokémon. Brilliant. Being the worst legendary in the generation of terrible legendaries is quite an accomplishment.''

Inviso: Why the f*** does this thing exist?

85. Mantyke (Score: 4396)
Average Ranking: 70.90 (St. Dev: 27.76) NFE Rank: 28/39 Water Rank: 11/14 Flying Rank: 14/14 Baby Rank: 3/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 20/29

2 - Lefty 3 - Paratroopa 7 - Bane 20 - Drak 21 - KBM 22 - swordz 24 - TexWolf 33 - Karo 35 - darkx 38 - Wickle 40 - Xuxon 43 - Goa 48 - Logicblade 54 - Bospsy 58 - Brayze 59 - Luster 59 - xx521xx 60 - Suor 61 - Nick 61 - Gen 61 - MI 66 - Mana 68 - Magmortar 68 - XIII 71 - Eddv 73 - Sanity 73 - do_ob 74 - JONA 75 - ProfDEADPOOL 75 - Wizards 76 - scarlet 76 - Ecks 80 - Paul 81 - MSG 81 - Steiner 81 - Scepter 82 - OrangeCrush 84 - Sorozone 84 - Anagram 85 - Stifled 87 - Snake5s 91 - starfox 92 - red 92 - FrostHarpy 93 - Tazzy 94 - BetrayedTangy 95 - Naye 95 - Dragon66116 95 - Inviso 96 - Natwaf 96 - Ermine 96 - Raka 96 - Arti 98 - Flubbin 98 - Cody 101 - mnk 102 - Wigs 102 - junglebob 102 - Comm 103 - CasanovaZelos 105 - Cybat 105 - Brohan

Paratroopa: ''he has a smiley face on his back in addition to the smiley face he already has on his face. he is the happiest pokemon probably. he is a tiny manta ray ball of happiness''

Bane: ''I know most people dislike him (I think) but look at him! He's so f****** happy to be flip-flopping around with his little fins and all of that.''

KBM: ''Probably the most adorable Water type ever. Cuteness does a lot for me in Pokémon, so I have to give it major props. (This makes it particularly painful for me that MOST pre-evos try so hard to be cute and fail SO miserably.)''

swordz: Mantine's design is great and feels complete so it didn't really need a baby, but Mantyke is adorable

Brayze: he's like mantine but with a smiley face on his back so you can be happy while you're chasing him down on a jetski to serve as delicious sashimi

Magmortar: ''Mantyke is one of the better babies, and it at least makes some sense I guess (what is Mantine without a Remoraid?), but…it’s still a baby. Late in the game, I want to just catch a Mantine. I do not want to deal with a Mantyke and then catch a Remoraid. And I like Remoraid far more than both this guy and Mantine.''

XIII: No. Why.

do_ob: ''He has an interesting evolution method. And he evolves into a Mantine, which happens to be one of my Pearl team members. I remember him being quite tanky, healing decently with Water Ring and Leftovers.''

Wizards: ''Another useless baby. I thought that maybe Mantine was getting an evolution so they made this thing, but no Its just there to get mantine. If they wanted us to use Mantine soo bad, then just put Mantine in the game instead of giving us this thing with a stupid evolution requirement.''

OrangeCrush: ''Hey, this baby is actually sort of tolerable! Mantine isn't popular, but Mantyke not having a Remoraid, and needing one of them on your team to evolve it is kind of neat. But at the end of the day, it's another dumb baby in a gen that has too many of them.''

Anagram: ''Poor Steve Irwin. I remember he died at the same time as Evel Knievel. I told a teacher I’d had in high school about their deaths, and he said Steve Irwin was an idiot who risked his own life on stupid crap, but that Evel Knievel’s death was a tragedy''

Stifled: ''Last time there were complaints about Steve Irwin jokes used for Mantine. Well I apologize my humor did not slay you. I guess not all of my jokes can leave you breathless like that. You might say you could impale the tension with a knife. Or maybe a manta ray stinger. Vital organs ruptured. Subtlety dead. Like Steve Irwin. Oh God. ''

Inviso: Useless baby of a useless Pokemon.

Natwaf: ''Not actually a baby, and the evo gimmick is neat. Looks stupid though.''

Ermine: Mantine didn't deserve this...

Raka: Weak

Arti: ''aw, look at it smiling. still a baby pokemon though''

Wigs: too cute for its own good.

Cybat: ''It's almost interesting that you have to evolve it with a Remoraid. But that really just raises more questions that it answers about how Mantine works. And it looks dumb.''

84. Mesprit (Score: 4333)
Average Ranking: 69.89 (St. Dev: 24.13) Fully Evolved Rank: 57/68 Psychic Rank: 5/9 Legendary Rank: 11/14

14 - Karo 18 - Dragon66116 24 - red 29 - Xuxon 30 - Natwaf 34 - FrostHarpy 35 - scarlet 36 - KBM 36 - Luster 38 - Drak 39 - Lefty 41 - Arti 44 - Paratroopa 48 - BetrayedTangy 49 - Snake5s 56 - xx521xx 57 - Gen 57 - XIII 59 - Steiner 59 - Brohan 61 - mnk 63 - do_ob 65 - OrangeCrush 66 - Bane 66 - Ermine 67 - Flubbin 69 - Stifled 70 - Comm 73 - Tazzy 74 - Wigs 76 - Goa 76 - Eddv 78 - starfox 81 - Ecks 82 - darkx 82 - Suor 83 - Brayze 83 - MI 84 - TexWolf 84 - Nick 84 - CasanovaZelos 85 - swordz 85 - JONA 86 - Bospsy 87 - Logicblade 87 - Scepter 88 - Wickle 88 - MSG 89 - Anagram 90 - Wizards 91 - ProfDEADPOOL 92 - Naye 92 - Inviso 93 - Cybat 96 - Magmortar 97 - Sanity 98 - Paul 101 - Mana 101 - junglebob 105 - Raka 105 - Cody 107 - Sorozone

Natwaf: ''Like Azelf, Mesprit the Magatama's looks is the reason it's this high. And the awesome music of course.''

KBM: ''Probably the best of the three lake guardians. But still, why are there three of these? Can someone please explain to me the difference between these three Pokémon other than the fact that they look different?''

Arti: legendary pixie 2

Paratroopa: ''after a while hating the gen 4 legendary trio I wound up deciding that I sort of like these guys for some reason? like they're okay, I dunno''

XIII: Augh roaming Pokemon augh augh augh

do_ob: ''It doesn't really matter how I rank you three in your own little group. You three elves are so similar in looks.''

OrangeCrush: ''He's a roaming Pokemon despite being the worst of its trio. I guess he knows no one wants him, so he didn't bother sticking around.''

Stifled: ''This one takes the top spot of the trio because it connects deeper with the story than the other two. But it still sucks. ''

Comm: The legendary trio no one cares about, but at least it has personality.

Wigs: ''Q: Why isn't its name Mespirit? A: Because that's dumb. You're dumb.''

Suor: ''I can't find a good reason as for why I put Mesprit in last place out of the pixie trio. They are all bad and unremarkable, so I guess blue > yellow > pink, so of course Mesprit would get the short end of the stick.''

Brayze: ''My what a stupid face you have grandma. The better to be part of the most forgettable garbage trio in pokemon history with, my dear.''

swordz: Oh look a pink and less ugly Uxie is about all I can say about this thing.

Anagram: What do those red dots in the foreheads of Indian women mean?

Inviso: Most forgettable member of the Psychic trio.

Cybat: Cut your hair, hippie.

Magmortar: non-Azelf pixie, whatever, NEXT (I initially had this way higher…then I remembered, IT IS A ****ING ROAMING LEGENDARY WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA I MEAN WHAT THE **** GAMEFREAK)

junglebob: When a Legendary trio member's main distinction is being a roaming encounter, that's bad news for that Pokemon and for the trio overall.

Raka: Unmemorable

83. Shellos (Score: 4278)
Average Ranking: 69.00 (St. Dev: 23.99) NFE Rank: 27/39 Water Rank: 10/14 Shellos Line: 2/2

5 - Paratroopa 9 - MI 15 - Bane 24 - Logicblade 26 - Karo 26 - Drak 26 - Brayze 30 - xx521xx 38 - Naye 42 - Sanity 51 - Tazzy 51 - swordz 51 - Wickle 54 - TexWolf 56 - ProfDEADPOOL 59 - Lefty 61 - Goa 62 - scarlet 64 - Wigs 67 - Ermine 67 - Nick 67 - Cody 69 - mnk 69 - Mana 69 - Raka 71 - FrostHarpy 71 - KBM 72 - red 73 - Luster 74 - Arti 74 - OrangeCrush 75 - BetrayedTangy 75 - Gen 75 - Anagram 75 - Magmortar 75 - Paul 76 - Suor 77 - Snake5s 77 - darkx 77 - Cybat 82 - CasanovaZelos 82 - Wizards 83 - Flubbin 83 - MSG 85 - Xuxon 86 - XIII 86 - Ecks 88 - Comm 89 - Eddv 89 - Scepter 90 - starfox 90 - junglebob 91 - Stifled 92 - Natwaf 93 - Brohan 96 - do_ob 97 - Steiner 98 - Bospsy 98 - Sorozone 100 - Dragon66116 101 - JONA 104 - Inviso

Paratroopa: ''fun fact shellos is one of two gen 4 pokemon I actually own a plushie of (the other is buizel for some reason). he's the blue kind so I am naturally biased towards the blue kind but the pink ones are nice too''

Brayze: ''I mean it's a small gastrodon. My love of it is similar smaller but still significant.''

swordz: ''Blue Shellos is great. I never really used one because it always showed up so late though.''

Raka: Microscopic

Arti: ''you: oh cool i finally caught a shiny! game freak: HAHAHA NOPE LOL''

OrangeCrush: Ugly garbaje.

Anagram: Man, I should replay FTL

Magmortar: ''When I first saw it, I thought it evolved into Lapras. Needless to say, I was disappointed (even though it is a ridiculous claim in retrospect…)''

Suor: They come in a variety of colors for varying degrees of lame.

Cybat: ''It's weird how many first forms of Water/Ground Pokemon are pure Water. ''

Stifled: ''Shellos would be a better name for a Greek person. ''

Natwaf: ''Hilarious but ugly NFE Trash. XD tricking people into thinking they encountered a shiny. I don't like it's looks though.''

do_ob: ''Never been a fan of the Shellos line. The pink version had a jelly for a head.''

Inviso: Yet another lame-ass Water/Ground-type.

82. Combee (Score: 4256)
Average Ranking: 68.65 (St. Dev: 30.93) NFE Rank: 26/39 Bug Rank: 6/9 Flying Rank: 13/14 Combee Line: 2/2

2 - Sanity 11 - Brayze 11 - Xuxon 15 - Naye 17 - Paratroopa 18 - Drak 21 - darkx 23 - Inviso 24 - Lefty 30 - Suor 31 - Gen 32 - Stifled 32 - JONA 39 - Wigs 41 - Mana 41 - Scepter 43 - MI 45 - mnk 52 - Wizards 58 - xx521xx 58 - TexWolf 58 - Raka 58 - MSG 64 - Karo 67 - Wickle 68 - Paul 70 - Tazzy 73 - Bane 76 - Sorozone 77 - Ecks 77 - starfox 80 - Anagram 80 - Dragon66116 81 - Nick 81 - do_ob 82 - Eddv 83 - Logicblade 86 - Ermine 88 - Cybat 89 - Snake5s 89 - Bospsy 92 - BetrayedTangy 92 - CasanovaZelos 92 - junglebob 94 - swordz 94 - Arti 97 - Luster 97 - Comm 98 - FrostHarpy 99 - scarlet 99 - Flubbin 99 - XIII 100 - Cody 100 - OrangeCrush 101 - Brohan 101 - Steiner 104 - ProfDEADPOOL 104 - KBM 105 - red 105 - Magmortar 105 - Natwaf 107 - Goa

Sanity: ''I don’t usually like multi-headed Pokemon, but this one works for me. It’s 3 little happy faces all flying together. I like to imagine they are stuck inside the comb, but were able to break it off and make a hole with their wings, so they just fly around until one day they aren’t stuck.''

Brayze: flirting with infinity your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right

Paratroopa: combee is just straight up hilarious and I defy anyone to tell me this isn't the case

Inviso: ''Adorable design. I love the smiley faces.''

Suor: Don't let them fool you with their happy faces, they have murderous intents and are coming to get you.

Stifled: ''I want a bee that looks like a comb for hair. Each prong is a stinger. Make it happen!''

Wigs: ''god i love his friggin face(s). And he makes me think of Bidoof comics.''

Raka: Cheerful

Anagram: ''Once a bee landed on my windshield and stayed there the entire ten mile drive on the freeway. It left in a completely different city that it began. I wonder what happened to it''

do_ob: A bunch of honeycombs.

Cybat: ''It's, uh, kinda creepy actually. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c7/Female_Combee_anime.png Eep. But yeah, necessary for Vespiquen, so not a total waste.''

junglebob: ''I don't get too excited about Combee, knowing that 87.5% of them are useless. Besides that, they're basically flying honeycomb with faces.''

swordz: Hey guys lets make a Pokemon that is completely worthless when male and rare as female.

Arti: ''stupid gimmick. especially in this gen when you could only get them from honey trees, finding a female one took forever''

OrangeCrush: Multiple faces and you have to do the dumb honey tree crap to even see one in D/P/P

ProfDEADPOOL: Don't like honeycombs and screw the males being absolutely useless.

KBM: ''Must I explain why this is stupid? Mere words cannot describe it, so perhaps music is the answer. Perhaps I shall write a Symphony to Combee.''

Magmortar: ''I hate bees, and THIS bee is useless 87.5% of the time (and given that this is Pokemon, it’s closer to 95% of the time; I got my female Combee through a trade). “Why don’t you just…**** OFF?!”''

Natwaf: ''Originally I didn't have problems with Combee much… and then XY rolled in and Combee was for some reason rare. Yeah, let's make it annoying to find a female why don't you. Poor Male Combees, so utterly worthless. The combees need an Extha to overthrow the Matriarchy. Or at least a Soldier Drone form for the males. I mean come on, it really needs it!''

Goa: ''87.5% of all Combees are useless because they can't evolve. I challenge you to find a non-joke Pokemon that has a ratio anywhere near that bad. And unlike say Milotic in the old days, Vespiquen isn't worth the effort.''

81. Hippopotas (Score: 4190)
Average Ranking: 67.58 (St. Dev: 20.70) NFE Rank: 25/39 Ground Rank: 10/10 Hippopotas Line: 2/2

21 - Dragon66116 22 - Eddv 29 - Lefty 35 - Sorozone 37 - Brayze 37 - MI 38 - mnk 41 - Wigs 42 - Xuxon 42 - red 43 - Bane 46 - Tazzy 46 - Steiner 49 - Paul 55 - Comm 55 - scarlet 59 - Logicblade 59 - BetrayedTangy 59 - Magmortar 60 - junglebob 61 - Suor 61 - Mana 61 - Arti 62 - Cybat 63 - Wickle 65 - Sanity 65 - Anagram 65 - CasanovaZelos 65 - Cody 65 - ProfDEADPOOL 66 - Nick 69 - Paratroopa 70 - Scepter 71 - TexWolf 72 - Inviso 72 - Bospsy 73 - Flubbin 75 - darkx 75 - MSG 76 - Ermine 76 - FrostHarpy 76 - XIII 79 - Goa 82 - Raka 83 - KBM 85 - Luster 86 - Drak 86 - OrangeCrush 87 - Stifled 87 - Ecks 87 - Natwaf 89 - Naye 91 - Wizards 91 - Brohan 93 - Gen 93 - JONA 93 - starfox 94 - do_ob 95 - Snake5s 102 - Karo 103 - swordz 105 - xx521xx

Brayze: he has a tiny pair of eyes on the top of his head which reminds me of crab and I like crab so place: 37!

Magmortar: ''A cartoon hippo. Okay. Hippopotas is my fodderline for this generation, everything below it is bleh and the Hippo and up is cool I guess.''

Arti: it's a hippo, get it?

Cybat: ''I bet they have wanted to do this "genders reverse colors" thing for a long time. Not sure why they did it with a hippo though. ''

Anagram: Although LA is technically a desert, I have no experience in especially hot conditions

Paratroopa: ''er. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/a/ab/449Hippopotas.png/250px-449Hippopotas.png hmmmmmmm. http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/square_small/13/135472/1898366-449hippopotas.png hhrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.''

Inviso: Cute enough, but the color scheme weirds me out.

Raka: Meh

KBM: Nghahh, the hell is this?

OrangeCrush: He might've been alright without the huge nose, but alas.

Stifled: ''Hippopothead. ''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Brohan: derpy af

do_ob: ''Compared to Hippowdon, Hippopotas looks so disappointing. Giant oval shape with army prints. Bleh. The Sandile line did you way better.''

Karo: ''Lost Pokedex entries #10 - Hippopotas, the r****ed pokemon! This pokemon has such a large nose and eyes that its brain simply does not have room to exist. it communicates solely through incoherent moaning and drooling.''

swordz: ''I hate how huge the head is compared to the rest of the body. It's all bad face.''

80. Mothim (Score: 4138)
Average Ranking: 66.74 (St. Dev: 26.97) Fully Evolved Rank: 56/68 Bug Rank: 5/9 Flying Rank: 11/14 Burmy Line: 1/3

3 - Ermine 6 - mnk 9 - Paratroopa 16 - red 18 - Brayze 19 - Naye 22 - ProfDEADPOOL 30 - Cybat 32 - Lefty 33 - Tazzy 33 - Wickle 38 - Sorozone 42 - Anagram 47 - FrostHarpy 50 - Suor 50 - xx521xx 55 - Snake5s 58 - Bospsy 59 - Ecks 60 - Dragon66116 60 - Karo 62 - Wizards 62 - Brohan 63 - Flubbin 63 - Raka 64 - Sanity 64 - Drak 69 - Nick 70 - Gen 71 - scarlet 73 - TexWolf 73 - starfox 77 - CasanovaZelos 77 - swordz 78 - Xuxon 79 - OrangeCrush 81 - Eddv 81 - darkx 81 - Natwaf 82 - Arti 84 - Wigs 84 - Bane 85 - MI 87 - Steiner 88 - Logicblade 89 - junglebob 89 - Mana 89 - Cody 89 - Inviso 89 - XIII 91 - do_ob 92 - Scepter 93 - Comm 93 - MSG 94 - KBM 94 - JONA 95 - Goa 96 - Stifled 101 - Paul 101 - Luster 102 - BetrayedTangy 103 - Magmortar

Ermine: ''I find it really hard to really explain why I love Mothim so much but I think a lot of it stems from his design. It just works for me and over the last few years I've begun to appreciate bug pokemon a lot more and Mothim is definitely one that has benefited from this new appreciation. I think his mouth and little feets are adorable. It's a bit of a shame he's going to score quite low since most people here only really like badass bug types. Either way, great poke.''

Paratroopa: NICE save mothim, you almost sucked for real but you really pulled through in the end there, proving once and for all that men are better than women

Brayze: okay yeah I like moths, they're like the kittens of the insect world, all fluffy and hurling themselves into open flames in search of the moon

ProfDEADPOOL: It is a cool moth

Cybat: ''Yep, yet another Bug/Flying type high on my list. He's just so unexpectedly powerful with Quiver Dance and Tinted Lens. And his design is actually kinda different from all the other butterflies and moths.''

Anagram: I'm just going to be honest: I didn’t like the 2014 Godzilla movie

Suor: ''In a world where Venomoth, Volcarona and Masquerain exist as awesome moth pokémon, Mothim is redundant. At least it is better than Dustox.''

Raka: Gentlemanly

swordz: Oh look another moth, but this one looks better than Dustox

OrangeCrush: ''Ugly honey Pokemon. This whole line could be deleted from the series and I wouldn't even notice.''

Natwaf: Looks better than Wormadam, but WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER FORGETTABLE BUG/FLYING

Arti: we definitely needed more bug / flying types that no one will use ever

Inviso: Yet ANOTHER moth and Bug/Flying-type.

do_ob: ''Another forgettable bug type. Volcarona, Venomoth, Dustox all did being a moth better than Mothim. Speaking of which, too many moths in Poke.''

KBM: ''I mean, it's not like I like Wormadam or anything, but I would pick her over THIS. Yet another extraneous Bug/Flying type that looks too much like something I would run away from in real life.''

Goa: ''People say Lumineon/Finneon are generic and pointless. This is just another bug type that I never remember exists until I see its name.''

Stifled: ''Yeah I was totally thinking when I booted up this game for the first time that we needed more forgettable Bug Pokemon. ''

Magmortar: Better than ****ing Dustox, but still really bad.

79. Glameow (Score: 4033)
Average Ranking: 65.05 (St. Dev: 26.22) NFE Rank: 24/39 Normal Rank: 12/17 Glameow Line: 1/2

7 - Xuxon 11 - TexWolf 12 - Karo 18 - Sanity 23 - Snake5s 24 - Anagram 26 - xx521xx 33 - KBM 34 - OrangeCrush 35 - junglebob 37 - red 37 - Bane 42 - Gen 44 - ProfDEADPOOL 44 - Drak 44 - Stifled 45 - Suor 47 - Inviso 50 - starfox 53 - MI 55 - Ecks 57 - Brayze 58 - Sorozone 58 - Wizards 59 - Comm 60 - Tazzy 60 - scarlet 61 - darkx 65 - Ermine 67 - Raka 69 - Paul 73 - swordz 74 - Paratroopa 74 - Bospsy 75 - Logicblade 76 - Cybat 77 - do_ob 78 - Cody 79 - Natwaf 80 - FrostHarpy 80 - Nick 81 - Flubbin 81 - Goa 82 - Scepter 82 - Magmortar 85 - Dragon66116 85 - MSG 88 - Arti 88 - JONA 90 - Steiner 91 - Luster 92 - Lefty 93 - Eddv 94 - Mana 97 - Wickle 98 - Naye 98 - Wigs 98 - BetrayedTangy 99 - mnk 102 - CasanovaZelos 102 - XIII 106 - Brohan

Karo: I like cats

Sanity: Dat tail.

Anagram: You ever wonder if old timey phrases like “the cat’s meow” actually got used in real life?

OrangeCrush: Generic cute cat is enough to beat the rest of this gen, which gets really bad really quickly.

Stifled: Kitty with a loopy swoopy tail!

Inviso: Cute enough, but not good enough to place higher.

Brayze: glamorous cat before she got fat 

Raka: Redundant

swordz: It's no Skitty, but the tail is pretty neat.

Paratroopa: this might seem weird but the pencil-like shape of its neck on its body like really makes me uncomfortable

Bospsy: ''Glameow is terribly unoriginal and pretty bland as well. Still, it looks better in the anime, as its tail is kinda cool. Had one in my party for a while, but it was just too frail.''

Cybat: ''"It hides its spiteful tendency of hooking its claws into the nose of its Trainer if it isn't fed. " Pff, cats, am I right? And this one is not nearly as cute as cats in real life.''

do_ob: ''You're not bad. Kind of cute. That's all.''

Natwaf: ''I don't think it's too ugly, but I can't remember a single thing about this and it's FE. Other than it's a cat. So yeah, here's my MEH line''

Magmortar: ''Cute enough but I can’t put it too high because it evolves into that abomination that is Purugly. At level 38 or whatever (seriously **** Mars).''

Arti: useless, like it's evolved counterpart

Wigs: i said i'd at least do wups for my bottom 10 and top 10 and I have nothing to say about glameow except it sucks

XIII: It's a cat.

78. Skuntank (Score: 3985)
Average Ranking: 64.27 (St. Dev: 23.62) Fully Evolved Rank: 55/68 Poison Rank: 6/8 Dark Rank: 6/7 Stunky Line: 1/2

11 - Eddv 16 - Inviso 20 - Sanity 20 - CasanovaZelos 33 - xx521xx 35 - Anagram 36 - Magmortar 36 - Lefty 38 - Snake5s 38 - Cybat 42 - starfox 42 - Ecks 42 - Brayze 43 - Scepter 45 - Mana 46 - Gen 46 - BetrayedTangy 49 - mnk 50 - Flubbin 54 - Karo 54 - Raka 55 - do_ob 55 - Steiner 56 - Wickle 57 - ProfDEADPOOL 60 - Comm 62 - MI 63 - scarlet 64 - Wizards 64 - Nick 66 - FrostHarpy 67 - Suor 67 - Tazzy 68 - Natwaf 68 - Goa 71 - Ermine 71 - Arti 72 - Bane 72 - Drak 74 - Sorozone 75 - JONA 76 - KBM 78 - Logicblade 78 - MSG 79 - Dragon66116 79 - XIII 80 - Cody 81 - Bospsy 82 - Xuxon 85 - darkx 88 - TexWolf 88 - Brohan 90 - red 91 - junglebob 91 - Wigs 94 - Paratroopa 95 - Stifled 104 - swordz 105 - Naye 106 - OrangeCrush 106 - Paul 106 - Luster

Inviso: Used one in my first play, plus skunks are cute.

Sanity: Aside from them making its call a fart sound, he’s still a skunk, and skunks are good stuff.

Anagram: ''I once read a feminist essay on why Pepe Le Peu is the most sexist cartoon character ever. I view it as wasted time''

Magmortar: It’s an exploding skunk tank with a buttface and the ability to shoot fire from its…actually this guy is pretty hilarious so let’s put it over some things

Cybat: ''Kinda funny that this is called a tank when it's really not that great defensively except HP. But again, cool type combo, and it's surprising there hadn't been a skunk yet. ''

Brayze: yeah so it's thing is that it farts, 42nd place right there

Raka: Smelly

do_ob: Farting out a Flamethrower is a majestic mental picture to imagine.

Suor: Using your tail as hair is actually pretty clever and neat, too bad it's still a skunk so it sucks by default.

Natwaf: ''Butt ugly thing. Watch out for Explosion!''

Arti: ''the evolved stunk pokemon. yep.''

Bospsy: ''Bland. I really doubt that more than one (there's always one) has it in his/her top 25. I do like the purple on it.''

Paratroopa: ''skunks are just... really not my favorite animal to be bluntly honest''

Stifled: ''I thought its name was “Skunktank” for the longest time. If it was a skunk mixed with a tank I’d be on board. ''

swordz: ''Only higher than Stunky because it has TANK in the name. Still an abomination.''

OrangeCrush: ''Annoying typing, bad design, bad in battle, spammed by Team Galactic, and worst of all his cry is farting noises! He's very close to being the worst Pokemon ever.''

77. Bibarel (Score: 3940)
Average Ranking: 63.55 (St. Dev: 25.68) Fully Evolved Rank: 54/68 Normal Rank: 11/17 Water Rank: 9/14 Bidoof Line: 2/2

3 - Flubbin 5 - Raka 14 - Ermine 14 - Stifled 26 - Sanity 28 - OrangeCrush 31 - Wickle 32 - Magmortar 36 - Karo 36 - Paratroopa 41 - starfox 41 - Luster 43 - Suor 46 - xx521xx 47 - Anagram 52 - Gen 53 - XIII 53 - Cody 54 - Arti 56 - Goa 56 - TexWolf 57 - Natwaf 57 - Xuxon 58 - JONA 59 - Brayze 60 - Inviso 60 - Mana 61 - do_ob 62 - CasanovaZelos 62 - mnk 63 - Nick 63 - red 63 - junglebob 64 - Eddv 65 - Steiner 65 - Brohan 67 - BetrayedTangy 68 - Scepter 68 - MSG 70 - Ecks 72 - MI 72 - Sorozone 72 - Logicblade 74 - Paul 75 - Cybat 76 - Lefty 76 - Snake5s 76 - Dragon66116 89 - Wigs 90 - Comm 92 - Bane 93 - KBM 96 - ProfDEADPOOL 99 - Naye 101 - Wizards 102 - scarlet 102 - FrostHarpy 102 - Drak 105 - Tazzy 105 - Bospsy 105 - darkx 107 - swordz

Raka: Useful

Stifled: ''Everyone’s favorite HM Slave! I try to name him Mr. Slave but my game thinks I’m a plantation owner and won’t let me. So I settle for Mr. Slayve. ''

Sanity: ''Sadly not anywhere near as good as Bidoof. They ruined his eyes.''

OrangeCrush: ''A beaver Pokemon was a cool concept, but the actual execution was a little lacking. Though I suppose Bibarel is proof that the line would've still been alright even if Bidoof wasn't a meme.''

Magmortar: ''It is an incredibly stupid looking beaver who sweeps your team if you somehow get Ninjask to work with it and makes a great HM slave. This guy is great.''

Paratroopa: even more insanely dopey than bidoof but doesn't get as much credit, bibarel really gets a bad deal

Suor: It would stll kick Ambipom's ass in a battle of wits.

Anagram: ''Did you know Canada’s national animal is actually the beaver? Truly, no animal is nobler or more majestic''

XIII: The ultimate HM slave!

Arti: mildly useful as a hm slave, not exactly the best endorsement but there you go

Goa: The HM master, at your service.

Natwaf: Inferior to it's NFE form, but it's a great HM Slave

Brayze: I guess this is also my national pokemon but he lacks the charm of the doof

Inviso: Good to use as an HM slave, but ugly.

do_ob: ''The greatest HM poke ever. He can cut, swim, climb, smash and push. He can go anywhere. Now if only he has a pair of wings to fly with.''

Cybat: ''Gets points for not being a pure Normal type and having 2 hilarious abilities, but loses points for being, well, itself. And what's with his name, are they calling that thing on his neck a bib?''

Wigs: ibmillion HM Slave comments

KBM: Does NOT have The Adventures of Bidoof going for it.

darkx: Even dumber than Bidoof.

swordz: ''This thing is ugly as sin and only good as an HM slave. An insult to beavers.''

76. Buneary (Score: 3935)
Average Ranking: 63.47 (St. Dev: 23.54) NFE Rank: 23/39 Normal Rank: 10/17 Buneary Line: 2/2

6 - xx521xx 15 - Karo 18 - Naye 25 - Scepter 31 - Cody 33 - Sanity 34 - Bospsy 35 - do_ob 35 - Bane 39 - Mana 40 - Gen 42 - Stifled 46 - Suor 46 - Inviso 47 - MI 47 - Tazzy 48 - Xuxon 48 - Ecks 49 - KBM 49 - Drak 50 - Raka 51 - OrangeCrush 52 - darkx 54 - Wizards 57 - Flubbin 57 - Logicblade 58 - red 62 - junglebob 62 - swordz 63 - Lefty 64 - Ermine 64 - starfox 64 - Anagram 66 - Wickle 68 - FrostHarpy 70 - Paratroopa 70 - Brohan 71 - MSG 72 - Dragon66116 74 - Snake5s 75 - mnk 79 - CasanovaZelos 80 - Goa 81 - Arti 81 - Cybat 82 - Steiner 82 - scarlet 84 - Comm 86 - JONA 87 - Nick 88 - BetrayedTangy 90 - Magmortar 90 - Luster 91 - Brayze 93 - XIII 93 - Natwaf 94 - Eddv 94 - Paul 95 - Sorozone 100 - Wigs 102 - TexWolf 106 - ProfDEADPOOL

Bospsy: ''Buneary is a lot like that one cute girl from high school that ended up being a stripper. She was great to be around with, but after she evolved you feel emberassed and hope nobody sees her in your party. Still, you have found memories of times past and that's why Buneary places this high on my list.''

do_ob: So fluffy and huggable.

Stifled: ''This would be near the top of my list of Pokemon I wanna give a big hug to. ''

Inviso: Cute enough, but not good enough to place higher.

Raka: Lovable

swordz: I don't know how much people like/hate this thing, but it's cute enough and wasn't butchered like some of its other animal friends.

Anagram: ''When my youngest sister was five, she came home with a book from the school library about how easy rabbits are to take care of, but our mom wouldn’t hear it. She denies the story is true, though''

Paratroopa: if I'm in a really weird and girly mood then this thing kind of becomes a guilty pleasure that I'm afraid to admit but most of the time it can go away

Arti: it gets points for not being evolved, but since it can evolve it's not getting far up the list

Cybat: ''Fair or not, what I associate this thing with most is the absurd restrictions on who you can have follow you in Amity Square. What a tease that place was. But yeah, not much interesting about this rabbit.''

Magmortar: wut ever rabit (this generation’s bad Pokemon are REALLY bad)

Brayze: ''How am I supposed to jerk off to this? 91st place''

XIII: ''Really. Did we really need this.''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Wigs: ''SHUT UP CHARMANDER!!.... I mean Mokuba.''

ProfDEADPOOL: Worst line Gen 4

75. Shieldon (Score: 3925)
Average Ranking: 63.27 (St. Dev: 21.96) NFE Rank: 22/39 Rock Rank: 5/7 Steel Rank: 8/10 Shieldon Line: 2/2 Fossils Rank: 4/4

10 - MI 18 - Tazzy 19 - Drak 24 - ProfDEADPOOL 25 - Eddv 32 - Ecks 36 - Bane 40 - Goa 40 - Brayze 40 - Wigs 42 - Lefty 43 - Steiner 44 - Cody 44 - Sorozone 45 - Sanity 45 - Arti 46 - mnk 49 - Xuxon 51 - TexWolf 55 - Ermine 55 - Paul 56 - red 57 - Scepter 57 - Wizards 58 - starfox 59 - KBM 60 - Bospsy 61 - swordz 64 - Paratroopa 64 - Cybat 64 - Comm 67 - Brohan 69 - MSG 70 - Mana 70 - Flubbin 72 - Raka 72 - CasanovaZelos 73 - Karo 73 - Logicblade 73 - Snake5s 75 - Inviso 75 - Nick 75 - Luster 76 - do_ob 76 - darkx 77 - XIII 79 - FrostHarpy 79 - scarlet 82 - BetrayedTangy 83 - Wickle 83 - Magmortar 86 - junglebob 86 - Anagram 89 - Gen 89 - Natwaf 91 - Dragon66116 95 - Suor 96 - xx521xx 97 - Naye 97 - Stifled 97 - OrangeCrush 98 - JONA

ProfDEADPOOL: Cute little dinosaur

Brayze: He's like bastiodon but smaller and way stupider but I can't hate a pokemon with a metal unibrow, like a tiny iron spaniard

Wigs: another bidoof comics friend.

Arti: ''one of the base fossils. evolves too early to be of much use. better than cranidos.''

KBM: ''Are you telling me that when mankind invented the shield, it probably did so by decapitating these things and waving their heads around in front of enemy spears? That's... dark.''

swordz: I've always liked dinosaurs and dinosaur-like creatures and this little guy is neat.

Paratroopa: something about shieldon's dopey face just doesn't quite do it for me, he doesn't have an entire castle wall for a face and that's too bad

Cybat: ''Straightforward but effective design. He sure looks disapproving though. Guess he's mad about his typing.''

Raka: Secretive

Inviso: Lame-ass fossil compared to the other choice.

do_ob: ''Aww you small little yellow triceratops. Wanna cuddle?''

Magmortar: ''Much easier to deal with than Bronzor (no **** like Hypnosis or Confuse Ray, and way easier to exploit weaknesses), but generally a really forgettable Pokemon. ''

Anagram: ''It’s strange that major fantasy characters rarely use shields. The only one I can think of is Link''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Suor: Another victim of the Electrike syndrome.

Stifled: ''It’s born with a cone of shame. ''

OrangeCrush: Looks like some ugly pitbull.

74. Kricketune (Score: 3884)
Average Ranking: 62.65 (St. Dev: 26.43) Fully Evolved Rank: 53/68 Bug Rank: 4/9 Kricketot Line: 1/2

6 - Wickle 9 - Ermine 17 - Logicblade 18 - ProfDEADPOOL 19 - Xuxon 19 - Anagram 22 - Lefty 22 - xx521xx 26 - scarlet 27 - CasanovaZelos 28 - Raka 29 - Suor 32 - Bane 35 - Snake5s 37 - Mana 45 - Sorozone 49 - Brohan 52 - red 53 - mnk 54 - Sanity 55 - swordz 56 - Wigs 61 - FrostHarpy 62 - Karo 64 - Dragon66116 66 - Eddv 66 - TexWolf 66 - MSG 66 - XIII 66 - BetrayedTangy 67 - junglebob 68 - Drak 68 - darkx 70 - Nick 71 - starfox 71 - Gen 73 - OrangeCrush 74 - Ecks 74 - Flubbin 74 - Inviso 77 - Natwaf 77 - Naye 78 - MI 78 - JONA 80 - Bospsy 81 - Cody 82 - Stifled 84 - Cybat 85 - Tazzy 85 - Magmortar 86 - Steiner 86 - Luster 92 - Arti 92 - Comm 92 - do_ob 93 - Goa 95 - Wizards 96 - Scepter 99 - Paul 102 - KBM 103 - Paratroopa 104 - Brayze

Ermine: ''Kricketune got some SERIOUS points from the anime for me due to the best contest battle of all time having him in it. The contest battle of Nando's Kricketune + Lopunny vs Zoey's Leafeon and Mismagius was amazing and Kricketune was definitely the star of that battle for me. Along with having one of the best in-game cries, he was animated very well in the anime and after seeing him perform I really had to bump him up as he is actually really cool.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''The bloodstained, moustached, slice and dicer. Those blade arms man. Those blade arms.''

Anagram: ''I can’t completely remove all the hair above my upper lip. It’s kind of annoying. Even if I shave super closely, I still have this visible brown streak across under my nose. It doesn’t happen anywhere else when I shave''

Raka: Musical

Suor: ''Love the concept on this one, having some sort of violin on its belly that it can play with its arms shaped like a music bow is... amazing, to say the least. Sadly it sucks hard in battle.''

swordz: A manly musician like Kricketune deserves a great mustache

Wigs: friggin best cry of all time

XIII: ''Love the cry of this thing. Otherwise awful''

junglebob: A-a-A-a-A-aBWOOOOOOOOP

OrangeCrush: Dumb pointless bug.

Inviso: Moustache is the only positive.

Natwaf: ''GLORIOUS MUSTACHE! SHARP POINTY ARM! Another insect at the sole of my shoe''

Stifled: Looney Kricketunes

Cybat: ''One of the best cries and moustaches in Pokemon sadly can't help this thing be any good. ''

Magmortar: ''On the plus side, it’s better than ****ing Dustox. But it still sucks horribly. A better Pokemon could have its cry. And the mustache.''

Arti: ''on one hand, it isn't bug flying. on the other hand, it's terrible.''

do_ob: ''Forgettable. At least he has some thin slicing blades compared to Kricketot.''

KBM: Ngahhhhh this looks even more like an insect please incinerate it with a Charizard while I look the other way.

Paratroopa: moustaches are rarely ever a good look on pokemon but it's an especially horrendous look for a cricket that also has a weird, gross nose

Brayze: ''worst starting bug ever, in the worst generation ever, makes this one of the worst pokemon ever. ''

73. Munchlax (Score: 3875)
Average Ranking: 62.50 (St. Dev: 26.88) NFE Rank: 21/39 Normal Rank: 9/17 Baby Rank: 2/8 Part of a Preexisting Line: 19/29

7 - Cody 10 - Bane 15 - CasanovaZelos 15 - Sanity 21 - MI 21 - Goa 26 - Wigs 26 - BetrayedTangy 27 - Inviso 28 - KBM 30 - junglebob 33 - darkx 33 - Wizards 37 - Bospsy 39 - Gen 41 - Suor 44 - red 45 - starfox 46 - Logicblade 46 - Lefty 47 - Mana 47 - Dragon66116 57 - Nick 58 - mnk 58 - Stifled 63 - Ermine 63 - Sorozone 65 - Magmortar 65 - Scepter 67 - Anagram 69 - Wickle 70 - TexWolf 70 - Drak 72 - JONA 72 - Comm 73 - Brohan 74 - Xuxon 76 - ProfDEADPOOL 76 - Steiner 76 - Brayze 77 - scarlet 77 - Paul 79 - Snake5s 79 - do_ob 80 - swordz 81 - xx521xx 82 - Tazzy 83 - OrangeCrush 85 - XIII 85 - Ecks 85 - Flubbin 90 - MSG 91 - Eddv 92 - Luster 93 - Raka 96 - Naye 99 - FrostHarpy 100 - Paratroopa 101 - Cybat 103 - Karo 103 - Arti 106 - Natwaf

Bane: ''Another good baby Pokemon in my book, he's just so goofy. I like that he goes around not giving a f*** trying to search for food. Wouldn't you want that to be your goal in life?''

Sanity: ''He’s a funny troll guy in the Smash games. Pops out and eats all the items. One day he’ll grow up to be a great man.''

Wigs: Is a fan of the Johns Hopkins Blue Jays so he's cool with me.

Inviso: Adorable baby, especially compared to most babies.

KBM: ''I can imagine Munchlax is going to be ranked way down with the other baby Pokémon. It doesn't deserve it at all. Look at the little guy! He's adorable!''

junglebob: ''This is something I'll rarely say: I think the existance of this Baby Pokemon is warranted! Munchlax is also an excellent troll in Brawl.''

Stifled: ''Hey everyone, make sure the fat kid gets picked last in gym class. ''

Magmortar: ''Munchlax isn’t great, but Snorlax is one of the few Pokemon I can actually get behind having a baby form. It’d be nice for it to be easier to get though!''

Anagram: ''Does anyone know if the latest iPhone model is worth upgrading to? I have the second latest model''

Brayze: ''The first generation 4 pokemon revealed to the public, I guess this was supposed to be popular. Joke's on you gamefreak, baby pokemon are still a damn awful idea. thank you for finally learning your lesson after hitting rock bottom in gen 4''

do_ob: ''Muchlax doesn't look bad per se. But he just gives off the vibe of "filler" and "unnecessary".''

swordz: We didn't need a baby Snorlax, but I kind of like how dumb this one looks.

OrangeCrush: Ugly baby.

Raka: Atrocious

Paratroopa: why are you wearing a dress, I hate you

Cybat: ''This one is at least slightly interesting and different from its parent without looking stupid. Solid effort, B minus, but still no reason to exist.''

Karo: ''His face looks like a south park canadian. this is not a good thing.''

Arti: ''annoying in brawl and useless in pokemon. good combo!''

Natwaf: ''Okay now the execution is just stupid. Munchlax only appears in one tree in all of Sinnoh, but you have no idea which one it is. Then, it's randomized depedning on your trainer ID and secret ID, so there's no set place. But at least if you hacked, you'll know which tree produces Munchlax. But Gamefreak didn't stop there, oh no, they made it THE RAREST ENCOUNTER OF THE ****ING TREE! And let's not forget that Honey Trees are time-based, so you'll have to wait hours to try again. And you'll have no way of knowing if the tree is a Munchlax tree or not unless you cheat.''

72. Manaphy (Score: 3816)
Average Ranking: 61.55 (St. Dev: 30.86) Fully Evolved Rank: 52/68 Water Rank: 8/14 Legendary Rank: 10/14

1 - xx521xx 7 - darkx 8 - Luster 8 - FrostHarpy 10 - swordz 11 - Wickle 12 - Scepter 13 - Lefty 14 - Natwaf 15 - Mana 20 - Bane 24 - Karo 31 - mnk 31 - Tazzy 39 - Cybat 40 - Drak 41 - Brohan 46 - Xuxon 47 - Paratroopa 48 - Steiner 49 - BetrayedTangy 52 - MI 52 - Raka 58 - do_ob 59 - Cody 59 - XIII 60 - OrangeCrush 61 - CasanovaZelos 63 - Paul 64 - KBM 65 - JONA 65 - Naye 69 - ProfDEADPOOL 69 - scarlet 74 - Goa 77 - Sanity 77 - Bospsy 78 - Comm 79 - Ermine 79 - MSG 82 - Dragon66116 82 - Flubbin 85 - Wizards 86 - Wigs 86 - Suor 87 - Arti 88 - Inviso 90 - Brayze 94 - Sorozone 94 - Anagram 95 - Gen 95 - Nick 95 - TexWolf 95 - Ecks 96 - red 96 - starfox 97 - junglebob 97 - Magmortar 98 - Logicblade 100 - Stifled 101 - Eddv 102 - Snake5s

darkx: ''Cute cute cute. I also bought Pokemon Ranger just to get him and that game didn't turn out to be half bad.''

swordz: I probably overranked this thanks to the movie, but I still really like it

Natwaf: ''Event and attached to the just plain bad Phione. That said, great use in my HG post-game team. Tail Glow kicks all kinds of ass.''

Cybat: ''Weird eyes, but suitably cute for the event legendary. A little sad that it stole Tail Glow from Volbeat, especially since it already has another signature move. I have seen this thing all of once in 7 years of SSBB. And it was hilarious.''

Drak: Wait, why are there two of these?

Brohan: the twin with the great personality

Paratroopa: ''you already read why I like phione better than manaphy even though it was probably a while ago. how do I know? MAGIC''

Raka: Acceptable

do_ob: Blue cute blob.

XIII: ''I bought Pokemon Ranger just so I could get a legit Manaphy and fill out the dex. True story. Only cost a couple of quid. Worth it.''

Goa: I can't really tell parent and child apart.

Bospsy: ''The more I see it, the lower I'm ranking it. It looks kinda happy, but that's the only positive thing I have to say about it.''

Suor: ''One spot above Phione because it has actual legs. The rest is just as bad.''

Arti: ''i shouldn't need to pay $30 or whatever to complete my pokedex. luckily one of my friends did it instead and traded the manaphy around''

Inviso: Special legendary that worse than all other specials.

Brayze: It is almost exactly like phione except a tiny bit stupider looking and a whole lot better at fighting, but I don't like either of them

Anagram: Blue is my favorite color

Gen: ''Heart Swap is actually pretty cool in Brawl. Doesn't change the fact that this is like the weakest excuse for a Legendary ever.''

junglebob: I've never had a Manaphy, all I really know about it is that its movie was boring.

Magmortar: I prefer this to Jirachi, but that says nothing because I still hate everything about it.

Stifled: ''You’re not a MANaphy if you give birth. ''

71. Snover (Score: 3809)
Average Ranking: 61.44 (St. Dev: 21.78) NFE Rank: 19/39 Ice Rank: 6/6 Grass Rank: 9/14 Snover Line: 2/2

6 - MI 7 - Suor 13 - darkx 15 - Lefty 16 - ProfDEADPOOL 23 - Mana 34 - BetrayedTangy 38 - junglebob 42 - CasanovaZelos 43 - MSG 43 - Stifled 44 - Xuxon 46 - KBM 46 - Bospsy 47 - Brayze 51 - Drak 53 - FrostHarpy 53 - Paul 54 - Sorozone 54 - starfox 58 - Tazzy 58 - OrangeCrush 58 - Ermine 59 - Raka 60 - Goa 61 - Natwaf 62 - Wickle 63 - Steiner 63 - Wigs 63 - Inviso 64 - Scepter 64 - Bane 64 - Magmortar 65 - Dragon66116 66 - xx521xx 66 - Cybat 67 - TexWolf 68 - Logicblade 69 - XIII 70 - Anagram 72 - Naye 72 - Eddv 73 - Comm 73 - red 75 - Karo 75 - Flubbin 77 - Wizards 79 - Gen 80 - Sanity 83 - JONA 83 - scarlet 83 - Arti 83 - Nick 84 - Luster 84 - Ecks 86 - Brohan 89 - do_ob 90 - Cody 91 - swordz 91 - mnk 94 - Snake5s 96 - Paratroopa

Suor: One of the cutest pokémon that only I find cute, a club for Snover, Golett and Elgyem lovers.

ProfDEADPOOL: It is a cute snow thing.

Stifled: ''I never knew saltshakers could be cute. ''

Brayze: I don't know what happened here but I think snover is maybe a radish?

Raka: Delicious

Natwaf: Cool NFE Trash

Inviso: Interesting combo, but super weak.

Magmortar: ''I LOVE its evolution but Snover is really bleh. It’s experience, and that’s it.''

Cybat: ''Haha I love this thing's eyes. He's weirdly welcoming for the precursor to the abominable snowman. Also, interesting typing, etc.''

Anagram: ''I wish I could speak meaningfully about trees, but I’m from Los Angeles. Half of what we have are identical palm trees and the others are mostly ugly giant oaks''

Arti: ''any pokemon used ember. snover fainted.''

do_ob: ''Abomasnow looks pretty nice. But Snover is kinda lacking.''

swordz: He turnss into an abominable snowman which is pretty neat.

Paratroopa: ''uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. what''

70. Lopunny (Score: 3759)
Average Ranking: 60.63 (St. Dev: 33.12) Fully Evolved Rank: 51/68 Normal Rank: 8/17 Buneary Line: 1/2

3 - Karo 4 - Eddv 5 - Inviso 7 - Paratroopa 12 - do_ob 14 - Brayze 19 - Mana 19 - Ecks 22 - Scepter 24 - Wizards 25 - Logicblade 26 - Suor 26 - FrostHarpy 27 - xx521xx 29 - red 32 - Sanity 35 - Raka 35 - Steiner 35 - Luster 37 - Cody 38 - Stifled 40 - Wickle 41 - OrangeCrush 41 - Anagram 43 - Tazzy 44 - swordz 51 - Goa 56 - Brohan 56 - Snake5s 60 - Naye 61 - Cybat 62 - Dragon66116 64 - Natwaf 68 - scarlet 73 - CasanovaZelos 75 - TexWolf 78 - junglebob 78 - Flubbin 80 - BetrayedTangy 85 - KBM 85 - Drak 87 - MI 87 - Bospsy 87 - Magmortar 90 - Gen 90 - Arti 91 - Nick 92 - Xuxon 92 - starfox 92 - mnk 95 - Paul 97 - MSG 100 - Sorozone 100 - Comm 103 - darkx 104 - Bane 105 - Wigs 105 - XIII 106 - JONA 107 - Lefty 107 - ProfDEADPOOL 107 - Ermine

Karo: Don't hate her cuz she's pretty.

Inviso: Yeah, she's not my number 1, but I'd still hit it.

Paratroopa: yeah I'd probably bang it, don't judge me all right

do_ob: One of the famous poke waifus along with Gardevoir.

Brayze: ''I originally trained one of these things for doubles because I love teeter dance and fake out and lopunny has both of those and is fast. Turns out it's great to use. THEN it got a mega where they just straight up gave it torn stockings which... I don't even know man. Lopunny ranks this high on a mixture of genuine appreciation, jerk battle tactics and gleeful irony''

Ecks: Super fighting rabbit… Lopunny!

Scepter: Another good Pokemon who suffers from its fanbase

Suor: ''It looks super sassy and super slutty, ready to snatch some wigs. I can sympathyze with that.''

Sanity: Furry porn.

Raka: Titillating

Stifled: It’s funny because it’s a bunny pun.

OrangeCrush: ''This is the Gen 4 Gardevoir. Except not good in battle (before the Mega). And more sexualized but also more furry and not as well designed. So she's kinda meh overall.''

Anagram: Did you know Bugs Bunny’s famous “What’s up, Doc?” is actually a reference to a 1930s movie that no one remembers, and that over time the reference became associated only with him?

swordz: ''I originally had this ranked much lower due to furry garbage, but that was unfair. I thought it getting a Mega was dumb, but it has grown on me.''

Cybat: I have nothing particularly insightful to add to whatever discussion is happening around this writeup.

Natwaf: ''Oh sexy~. Weird choice for a Mega, but boy did it needed one, and now it has a niche! Hi Jump kick all those Ghost.''

KBM: ''What the f***ing s***, Internet? IT'S A TRIANGLE BUNNY.''

Bospsy: ''Even worse than Lola Bunny. I don't know how anyone thought this was a good idea. At least it's not hideous, but I guess that it's kinda the point. ''

Magmortar: It kind of scares me how not only people think this thing is attractive, but probably legions of them at that.

Gen: ''I hate Lopunny for reasons other than you might think, namely that I just find it ugly. Not because it's a animalification of a Playboy Bunny but because it creeps me out. I think it's the eyes. Hilariously enough I love its Mega evolution. It's like GF took everyone's preconceived notions of what Lopunny represented and cranked it up to a freaking 11. Oh you thought it was intentional furrybait before? Well how about we give it ankle boots with matching fingerless gloves and f***ing torn stockings!? Trollolol! For the record I didn't find anything inherently sexual about it before, but now...''

Arti: ''i really want to know who thought that sprite was a good idea. i mean seriously. no one noticed that?''

Comm: The Pokeporn surrounding this one ruined it for me.

darkx: Furrybait

Bane: ''F****** creepy. Never realized HOW creepy it was until doing the rankings. Like what the hell.''

Wigs: Lopen > Lopunny

XIII: ''Absolutely vile. Probably Inviso's #1 and that should say it all.''

ProfDEADPOOL: Everything I dislike about Gardevoir(*cough* the fan base *cough*) only without any redeeming factors

Ermine: While you did have a fantastic contest battle alongside Kricketune, you are still completely awful and very much deserve last place, nothing can save you from that.

69. Heatran (Score: 3667)
Average Ranking: 59.15 (St. Dev: 26.96) Fully Evolved Rank: 50/68 Fire Rank: 5/5 Steel Rank: 7/10 Legendaries: 9/14

7 - Steiner 8 - Natwaf 13 - Magmortar 15 - Goa 19 - ProfDEADPOOL 20 - Brayze 20 - Luster 21 - OrangeCrush 23 - TexWolf 27 - KBM 33 - Xuxon 33 - Sorozone 34 - Paul 36 - BetrayedTangy 38 - MSG 40 - Snake5s 41 - XIII 45 - Cybat 45 - scarlet 46 - Paratroopa 47 - starfox 48 - Suor 48 - Stifled 49 - Sanity 49 - Arti 52 - Eddv 52 - Nick 52 - JONA 53 - Flubbin 54 - Cody 55 - Wizards 58 - Brohan 66 - Inviso 66 - junglebob 66 - mnk 66 - Comm 68 - Mana 68 - Bane 71 - Wigs 72 - Ecks 75 - Raka 75 - Naye 76 - red 77 - Dragon66116 78 - Drak 80 - Karo 83 - Scepter 83 - swordz 84 - do_ob 84 - Tazzy 84 - darkx 90 - CasanovaZelos 90 - Lefty 91 - Logicblade 94 - FrostHarpy 95 - Anagram 96 - MI 97 - Bospsy 100 - Wickle 101 - Gen 104 - xx521xx 106 - Ermine

Natwaf: ''How could anyone even think this is most forgettable legendary ever? This **** is everywhere online. Marvelous in combat, and the design is great.''

Magmortar: ''Heatran is insanely good and it is the only Legendary I have actually put to good use in an actual Pokemon game – the one on my old Diamond file happened to come out as Modest, so for PBR random adventures it did me a lot of good. Awesome Pokemon.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''It looks kinda like a dinosaur and it has a fairly unique type. It is a fairly fun legendary''

Brayze: ''At some point, someone made the call to put aerofoils on the sides of heatran's head. 'This fat lava toad looks stupid, but not quite stupid enough. It's just missing something...' Two days and a traumatic brain injury later and PRESTO, the heatran we all know and love''

OrangeCrush: Heatran is THE anti-metagame Pokemon

XIII: ''A great Pokemon to use in 4th Gen OU as well as today. I know a lot of people hate it for that but I generally use what I'm given and Heatran was a reliable contender for me.''

Cybat: ''In terms of story or canon, easily the most forgettable legendary ever. But his typing, stats, and abilities are so good. His design is…well, his stats are good.''

Paratroopa: straddles the line between goofy and scary in a way that is completely par for the course for a giant, metal, fire toad

Suor: ''I sometimes forget this thing is a legendary... it is a legendary, right? ''

Stifled: ''It’s a hodgepodge of different lava themes and does none of them well. But it’s super powerful in Pokemon Rumble Blast. ''

Arti: ''a useless legendary from the post game. mainly annoyed because you need hms to get it.''

Inviso: Ugly, but useful.

Raka: Normal

Karo: ''What the hell is this f***er supposed to be? a spider? a frog? it is stupid and awful whatever it is.''

swordz: ''I used to really like this thing, but that time has passed I guess. Fire/Steel is neat though''

do_ob: ''A fire steel crab. Meh.The legendaries this gen aren't all that impressive looking at all.''

darkx: ''Most unmemorable legendary of all time. To the point where he's hardly even memorable for being the least memorable.''

Anagram: ''Once I found a turtle trying to climb down a set of stairs at a mall. I walked on by. I hope he followed his dreams and learned what the first floor was like''

Gen: ''Are you kidding me? This doesn't even look like a legendary pokémon; it looks like a cockroach, and I f***ing HATE cockroaches! I don't care how decent in battle or how Fairy-resistant you are if you look this hideous! What's with it having a gender if it can't breed anyway? I mean Lati@s had the sibling gimmick, so what the f*** is your excuse?''

Ermine: ''Heatran. You know why you are here. You and Scizor completely ruined the later half of Gen 4 competitive. If you didn't have these 2 on your team you were literally at a complete disadvantage. Fortunately for Scizor, he has a great design and is actually a good poke. Unforunately for you, you are ugly as heck and also made things completely unfun and unfair.''

68. Grotle (Score: 3589)
Average Ranking: 57.89 (St. Dev: 24.05) NFE Rank: 19/39 Grass Rank: 8/14 Turtwig Line: 3/3 Starter Rank: 9/9

6 - swordz 14 - KBM 19 - Goa 19 - Lefty 21 - Ecks 23 - Raka 25 - Dragon66116 27 - Sanity 29 - Sorozone 30 - Drak 31 - Comm 32 - Logicblade 34 - Tazzy 36 - MI 41 - TexWolf 41 - scarlet 42 - junglebob 43 - Snake5s 47 - Karo 48 - Paul 49 - ProfDEADPOOL 51 - Naye 51 - FrostHarpy 51 - Bospsy 53 - Bane 54 - Steiner 54 - Magmortar 54 - Suor 54 - Ermine 55 - Stifled 55 - Wigs 56 - Xuxon 57 - starfox 58 - Natwaf 59 - Mana 60 - Nick 63 - Cybat 64 - Arti 66 - Luster 66 - Wizards 67 - do_ob 69 - Brohan 72 - MSG 75 - XIII 76 - BetrayedTangy 77 - JONA 77 - Scepter 78 - CasanovaZelos 79 - Anagram 81 - red 84 - Eddv 84 - Gen 86 - Wickle 87 - Flubbin 88 - Paratroopa 91 - darkx 94 - OrangeCrush 96 - Cody 96 - Inviso 97 - Brayze 97 - xx521xx 100 - mnk

swordz: ''This might be the one time a middle stage starter is my favorite. Grotle's design is just perfect.''

KBM: ''Shockingly not bad for being both a Grass starter and a middie. I really kinda dig Gen IV's grass line. Which is more than I can say for most of Gen IV's anything.''

Ecks: ''Reminds me of Spike from The Land Before Time. Where the hell is Ducky?''

Raka: Nice

Suor: I used to hate Grotle, but I have to respect a turtle trying to grow a tropical forest on its butt.

Stifled: ''Grotle’s Pizza. ''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Cybat: ''Eh. Fairly average middle form; not bad but not particularly great either. Awkward name, too.''

Arti: the worst starter of this gen's worst form!

do_ob: ''Turtwig is cute in his own way. Torterra looks majestic. Grotle, though doesn't look ugly, suffers the fate of being neither here nor there.''

Anagram: Man, energybending came out of nowhere, it’s still kind of a copout

Paratroopa: ''ohhhh man, dude. swing and a freakin miss. you could not have done worse with this concept.''

OrangeCrush: ''Another really awful middle evolution for a starter, and Grotle might just take the cake for being the worst. Well maybe not when we have Pignite and GRASS PIGNITE coming up, but he's still terrible. ''

Inviso: Turtles suck and this line is overrated.

Brayze: every starter middle evo is awful in this gen, and grotle is the worst of them all, way to go gen 4, cementing your position as the worst generation yet again

67. Rhyperior (Score: 3562)
Average Ranking: 57.45 (St. Dev: 36.11) Fully Evolved Rank: 49/68 Rock Rank: 4/7 Ground Rank: 9/10 Part of a Preexisting Line: 18/29

2 - scarlet 4 - Magmortar 4 - XIII 5 - CasanovaZelos 7 - ProfDEADPOOL 8 - starfox 9 - Nick 9 - Wizards 9 - MSG 10 - Wickle 13 - Flubbin 15 - Comm 15 - Snake5s 18 - JONA 19 - Stifled 20 - Inviso 23 - Luster 26 - Arti 28 - Steiner 30 - Paul 32 - Eddv 35 - Brohan 35 - BetrayedTangy 40 - Natwaf 44 - Goa 47 - Xuxon 49 - Cybat 50 - Logicblade 50 - Wigs 56 - OrangeCrush 63 - Naye 64 - swordz 68 - Sorozone 68 - Paratroopa 69 - red 75 - Sanity 79 - TexWolf 80 - mnk 81 - FrostHarpy 81 - Mana 83 - Bospsy 84 - Scepter 88 - Drak 88 - darkx 91 - Raka 91 - xx521xx 92 - Brayze 93 - Bane 93 - do_ob 94 - Karo 95 - Cody 97 - KBM 98 - Dragon66116 100 - Lefty 100 - Tazzy 102 - Ermine 102 - Anagram 104 - junglebob 106 - MI 107 - Ecks 107 - Suor 107 - Gen

Magmortar: seriously guys it’s Rhyperior SWEET JESUS even that name is just so cool do you people suddenly not like ARM CANNONS or something because there is a Geodude ready to be fired at you and I do not think Rhyperior gives a ****

XIII: ''I'm sorry, but f*** you all so much. You are going to take a Pokemon of the sheer magnificence of Rhyperior and rank him somewhere in the bottom 20 of this list. And why? Why? Rhyperior is a rock monstrosity with ARM CANNONS. Sometimes he accidentally picks up Geodude in his ARM CANNONS and fires them. This is legitimately one of its Pokedex entries. You people, you worthless design whores, just have no concept, no idea, how f***ing awesome it is to have a Pokemon that accidentally picks up and fires Geodude like bullets. Also, Rhyperior has Rock Wrecker. Hyper Beam is the best move in the entire franchise, and Rock Wrecker is an awesome variant of it. For a while, it was Rhy's signature move. The Rocks on its body looks like it is wearing some sort of tactical vest, which is great, and it also gets moves like Earthquake, Megahorn, Aqua Tail and Rock Polish to make it even more of a BEASTLY GOD. Rhyperior is almost certainly better than your favourite Pokemon. Somebody probably ranked Drifblim above this beast. Someone probably ranked s*** like Leafeon or Glaceon or Roserade over this beast. Unbelievable, unreal, unacceptable. One of b8's greatest collective failures is their failure to understand how good it is to possess a Pokemon like Rhyperior - quite simply, better than you. http://assets.extremeadvertisements.com/hashed_silo_content/e1a/e5a/91a/resized/rhyperior-is-superior-3894aa.jpg - end of story. You guys suck. You guys suck. So much.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Arm cannons! Horns! DOOM!''

Starfox:'' Arm cannons with Geodude ammo! I never really got why the design was so hated. Probably because he looks fat or something stupid like that. I just wish it didn’t have the Rock/Ground defensive typing catastrophe without the Special Defense or Sturdy to make up for it.''

MSG: ARM CANNONS MOTHERF***ER

Flubbin: ARM CANNONS etc. etc.

Comm: ARM CANNONS

Stifled: ''So wait. Hold up. You guys LIKE Aggron for being a lame Rhydon with Armor but HATE Rhyperior for being a good Rhydon with Armor? I don’t understand. ''

Inviso: I like it better than Rhydon for sure…just a bit overdesigned.

Arti: superior rhydon here to charge into everything

Natwaf: ''Aggron > the entire Rhy line. Rhyperior > Rhydon too. Dies to pretty much any special hit and slow as molasses, but holy crap look at that ATK and DEF''

Goa: Should have looked more like Rhydon, but not as bad as the haters say.

Cybat: ''His design trends more towards "fat" than "intimidating", and he sure is lousy in Pokemon Conquest. But Rhydon deserved an evolution, and we all deserve a Pokemon with rock cannons.''

swordz: Rhydon is so much cooler, but the firing Geodudes like cannon balls thing is pretty badass

Paratroopa: ''well, he shooots geodudes out of his hands, like cannons. yeah, I guess that's pretty cool! ...yeah''

Raka: Terrible

Brayze: rhyperior is the only pokemon designed by comic book sensation rob liefeld

do_ob: ''Rhydon looks so much better. Rhyperior is so bulky and fat compared to muscular Rhydon.''

Karo: ''Lost Pokedex entries #9 - Rhyperior, the misshapen blob pokemon. This pokemon has a rather questionable anatomy and is fond of belts with lots of pouches. Evolves from Rhydon by using the Roblifieldite.''

KBM: ''*takes out checklist of things that make Pokémon bad* Unnecessary evolution of Gen I Pokémon that was perfectly fine as is? Check. Adds random s*** to the design that makes it worse for no reason at all? Check. Trade evolution? Check. This actually actively makes the Rhydon line worse for me. I would have preferred a pre-evo.''

Ermine: ''Poor Rhydon. Rhyperior actually makes me like Rhydon more just because I feel so bad that it evolves into this unholy catastrophe.''

Anagram: ''I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen a rhinoceros in real life or not. I’ve been to zoos before, but I really don’t know''

junglebob: ''Gluing a bunch of rocks all over Rhydon is bad enough, but those new arms just look terrible. This design totally looks like MegaEvolution material.''

Ecks: It's like they took a Rhydon turd and drew a face on it.

Suor: ''Quite possibly the most abysmally awful pokémon out there. Unneeded evolution of a cool pokémon that was fine on its own, without a gigantic solid turd that looks nothing like the rest of the line. Arm cannons are honestly a lame gimmick compared to many things out there, so even that cannot justify this thing's existence. Absolute useless crap.''

Gen: ''This. Is. Literally. A. Piece. Of. S***. It really is fitting that it's the color of feces, and look! Its shiny sprite even throws in some undigested corn kernels for its "armor". BAH GAWD GAIZ IT SHOTS GEODUDRS FROM ITZ HAND CANONS ZOMG SO KEWL! What am I, 7? No, I am well past the age when I would have found that tidbit of information "kewl". Sorry but that doesn't change the fact that it's the ugliest pokémon to grace the 400+ roster in four generations and that is no easy feat when things like Snubbull exist. Rhyperior is not even a good name for it, not only because it's not "superior" to anything in its own line let alone anything at all, but because they didn't even try on that pun. Serperior makes much more sense. Rhyperior should have been Rhyperion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_%28mythology%29 I mean... I'd still hate the ever loving f*** out of it, but at least it would have an undeniably sweet name.''

66. Chimchar (Score: 3502)
Average Ranking: 56.48 (St. Dev: 26.82) NFE Rank: 18/39 Fire Rank: 4/5 Chimchar Line: 3/3 Starter Rank: 8/9

3 - xx521xx 11 - Bane 13 - XIII 18 - Karo 19 - Bospsy 20 - Comm 20 - Mana 20 - Ermine 24 - Raka 26 - Anagram 31 - Stifled 31 - MI 32 - Sorozone 32 - Cody 32 - KBM 34 - Scepter 39 - Arti 40 - red 42 - Wickle 44 - darkx 45 - Brohan 45 - do_ob 46 - JONA 46 - Luster 48 - ProfDEADPOOL 48 - swordz 50 - Steiner 50 - Xuxon 51 - junglebob 53 - starfox 54 - Eddv 56 - CasanovaZelos 56 - mnk 59 - Inviso 59 - Cybat 59 - Dragon66116 60 - Paul 60 - Drak 61 - Tazzy 62 - Logicblade 70 - Wizards 71 - Snake5s 71 - Natwaf 73 - Nick 74 - Suor 76 - Flubbin 79 - Magmortar 80 - Gen 81 - scarlet 83 - BetrayedTangy 83 - Goa 85 - Wigs 87 - Naye 92 - OrangeCrush 93 - Ecks 94 - Lefty 98 - MSG 98 - TexWolf 99 - Paratroopa 102 - Brayze 107 - Sanity 107 - FrostHarpy

XIII: The start of something great, Chimchar is a cute enough starter that is strong in the early game and only gets better.

Ermine: ''Chimchar and his line are a rare exception of monkey pokemon actually being good. Unfortunately, that goes terribly wrong in future gens... :( Chimchar is pretty adorable.''

Raka: Decent

Anagram: Ever wonder what happened to that gorilla they caught sign language?

Stifled: ''I love monkeys. Yet I still picked the penguin. The mysteries of life. ''

KBM: ''Much as it did with Cyndaquil, it PAINS me to put the Fire starter this low, when Charmander AND Torchic are my #1s in their respective generations. Even though Chimchar isn't bad like Cyndaquil (it's still one of the better Pokémon of the gen), it still feels lazy to me. Really just Charmander with Mankey's design and some Dark-type status infliction moves.''

Arti: piplup is a better first form, but chimchar evolves into the best starter!

do_ob: ''Flaming ass and a pile of whipped cream on top of your head. But you being so adorable under Ash's charge lifted you here.''

swordz: Anime Chimchar was great.

Inviso: Worst non-Turtwig line starter.

Cybat: ''He's cute but kinda weird looking. That red area in his eyes is kind of unsettling, especially in his official art. Also, "char" in a fire starter's name? Never heard that before.''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Suor: ''Monkeys suck, they stink and generally aren't cool. This is no exception.''

Magmortar: ''I don’t need a monkey whose ass is on fire. Next.''

Gen: ''I liked Paul's/Ash's, but let me explain: this is the ugliest starter ever. I'm done. Actually no I'm not. People give Oshawott crap for being an "ugly clown otter" but is "ugly harlequin chimp" really any better? I look at this thing and all I can think of is it scratching its ass and then sniffing its fingers I.R. Baboon style. Now I'm done. *drops mic*''

OrangeCrush: ''This guy was tolerable with sprites, but his model is godawful. The derp is unbearable.''

Ecks: ''An ugly monkey with a flame on its ass. Imagine, if you will, the stench that must emit from this creature.''

Paratroopa: oh my god I hate this thing why are you a starter why are my other choices not particularly better

Brayze: One of the dumbest versions of the dumbest animal to make a dumb pokemon, chimchar is dumb cubed, three dimensions of dumb, you can math this out and graph it

Sanity: Monkeys suck.

65. Cresselia (Score: 3501)
Average Ranking: 56.47 (St. Dev: 23.81) Fully Evolved Rank: 48/68 Psychic Rank: 4/9 Legendary Rank: 8/14

7 - Snake5s 12 - Cybat 13 - Paratroopa 22 - Brohan 22 - do_ob 25 - Xuxon 27 - Luster 27 - Paul 27 - BetrayedTangy 30 - Bospsy 31 - Suor 31 - Goa 32 - OrangeCrush 36 - Wickle 37 - Ecks 38 - Natwaf 38 - Sanity 39 - mnk 41 - Comm 47 - KBM 47 - scarlet 48 - xx521xx 49 - Stifled 49 - darkx 49 - TexWolf 50 - Scepter 50 - Wizards 54 - Brayze 55 - Arti 56 - Flubbin 57 - Raka 57 - red 60 - XIII 60 - ProfDEADPOOL 61 - Wigs 62 - Sorozone 62 - Naye 62 - MSG 63 - Dragon66116 63 - Tazzy 65 - Bane 69 - Karo 69 - JONA 71 - Mana 73 - Lefty 73 - FrostHarpy 74 - Cody 75 - Drak 76 - Anagram 76 - MI 78 - Steiner 83 - Ermine 83 - Inviso 83 - Gen 87 - swordz 90 - Logicblade 91 - CasanovaZelos 94 - starfox 96 - Nick 99 - Eddv 100 - junglebob 100 - Magmortar

Cybat: ''Very elegant design, it's sort of weirdly alien-like but it works for me. Its shiny form is really pretty too.''

Paratroopa: not actually a pokemon, just an accurate depiction of what hippies on drugs think dolphins look like

do_ob: Doesn't lose to Froslass in terms of gracefulness by much.

Bospsy: ''A nice & mysterious pokémon. Can't really tell what so special about her appearance, but something about this pokémon just 'clicks'. ''

Suor: ''I kind of like the moon rubber duck, it looks pretty with its pink glitter rings around and I love how it covers its boobs with its... hands.''

OrangeCrush: ''As I said with Lunatone, I like moon themed things. Unfortunately, Cresselia is a huge pain to capture even in OR/AS, so I've never actually used one.''

Natwaf: ''Look at it. It's so pretty. As a wall it's not at abomination levels, but I'm just thankful it's not too hard to beat when I come across it in Tower/Frontier/Maison.''

Stifled: ''Cresselia is so clutch in Pokemon Rumble Blast. ''

Brayze: Oh WOW do I hate fighting this thing, thanks for forcing me to carry taunt on every team cress, eat it

Arti: ''i didn't really mind the running in dpp. catching the birds in plat was painless. cresselia was a frequent master ball target except for when i used one on metang''

Raka: Lunatic

XIII: ''After Mesprit, Moltres, Zapdos and Articuno I was totally done with roaming Pokemon, so I threw a Master Ball at Cress. It's a pretty boring legendary.''

Anagram: The Ugly Duckling is a story about how if you’re ugly and everyone laughs at you, maybe one day you’ll find their acceptance and approval by being genetically lucky

Inviso: Roaming legendary and completely unnecessary.

Gen: ''Actually I think it's very pretty. Why am I (someone who has once been called "a design whore") hating on a pokémon whose design I like? Because I just don't see the need for it. I don't "get" its "rivalry" with Darkrai. It doesn't look like it exemplifies its legendary status. Like if Darkrai is supposed to represent the dark side of the moon I don't get why Cresselia doesn't look like it represents the opposite. It's like they threw a crescent on a drinky bird's head and called it a day. Pretty, but... why?''

swordz: This thing Is just really weird looking and the moon head isn't helping.

starfox: ''“I’m totally not Lati@s, I swear! See! I’m not a dragon, look far too similar to a rubber duck, am not anywhere near as good in battle, and have even less of a reason to exist!”''

junglebob: A pain in the ass on Spear Pillar in Brawl.

Magmortar: ''It doesn’t die. And it is a roaming legendary. In short, I think Cresselia is an abomination.''

64. Brozong (Score: 3488)
Average Ranking: 56.26 (St. Dev: 32.75) Fully Evolved Rank: 47/68 Steel Rank: 6/10 Psychic Rank: 3/9 Bronzor Line: 1/2

1 - Naye 3 - Brayze 6 - BetrayedTangy 7 - Lefty 9 - Wigs 10 - Paratroopa 11 - Goa 15 - Wickle 15 - Natwaf 15 - Eddv 16 - Tazzy 18 - Steiner 23 - Wizards 25 - Sorozone 28 - TexWolf 29 - Luster 29 - Arti 30 - Dragon66116 31 - Ecks 34 - XIII 37 - Gen 39 - ProfDEADPOOL 44 - FrostHarpy 44 - CasanovaZelos 46 - Mana 47 - Ermine 50 - JONA 51 - Anagram 52 - Suor 53 - Cybat 53 - Stifled 53 - Magmortar 55 - Brohan 55 - Raka 57 - junglebob 58 - Drak 67 - Karo 69 - do_ob 69 - swordz 78 - scarlet 79 - Nick 81 - Inviso 82 - Cody 85 - Sanity 87 - starfox 90 - Paul 90 - KBM 92 - Flubbin 92 - MI 93 - mnk 94 - Bospsy 95 - OrangeCrush 95 - MSG 95 - Bane 96 - Comm 98 - Snake5s 98 - darkx 100 - red 101 - Logicblade 102 - xx521xx 104 - Scepter 107 - Xuxon

Brayze: ''Hear the loud alarum bells, brazen bells! What a tale of terror, now, their turbulency tells! -E.A. Poe, from the Bells, his last work before going completely bonkers and dying of I think being bonkers or rabies, according to wikipedia''

Wigs: http://www.court-records.net/animation4/valant-womg%28b%29.gif

Paratroopa: ahahaha holy s*** yes the 'zong is the motherf***ing man

Goa: Fire or ground, fire or ground, fire or ground???

Natwaf: ''THE ZONG! While I prefer offensive poke, it's design just rings a bell in my heart. Mediocre in-game though… though that's more because of the sheer number of steel types in Mt. Coronet when I was climbing up.''

Arti: ''what even is this thing. nice typing though, and whatever it is i like the design''

XIII: ''Bronzong actually has a face, which I didn't realise for a while. FACE FACE FACE LOL''

Gen: ''One of the few Gen IV pokémon I have actually used, and let me tell you brother it is great! Much easier to raise (and catch) than the Beldum line, and sweet in battle to boot. I have long since given up competitive, but I imagine either of its useful abilities would make an opponent think twice about strategy (though I imagine Levitate Bronzong is far more common but hey ya never know). I don't even mind its bland design when it's this good. I mean it's not ugly or anything, just a little boring.''

Anagram: ''I will give my profile’s quote until 2016 to the first person to quote this line. Anything TOS-compatible is allowed''

Cybat: ''He was hurt worse than Metagross by the gen 6 type chart changes. But it was so hilarious at the time when he only had two weaknesses and an ability that negated one of the two.''

Stifled: ''Because everyone was just begging for a giant tin can Pokemon with psychic powers. ''

Magmortar: ''Bronzong is kind of cool looking, is pretty good in competitive (…in its debut generation, but really a lot of Pokemon roll off after their first gen), has a lot of options and unlike Bronzor, you do not have to deal with them for the ENTIRE GAME (that said, we do not talk about Lucian’s Bronzong in Diamond and Pearl. Platinum thankfully made it easier to deal with). FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSS''

Raka: Heavy

do_ob: TONIGHT, YOU WILL GO ONE ON ONE, WITH DA UNDERTAKAH!

swordz: It's a pretty cool looking bell, but about all it can do is STALL

Inviso: I hate fighting this thing in-game.

KBM: Like I said with Bronzor, it's really not fair that I hate this line, but I have some serious PTSD regarding oh my GOD they're f***ing EVERYWHERE I hate I hate I HATE Mount Coronet just die die die die DIE permanently forever.

Bospsy: ''I guess this will be a relatively popular pokémon, but I don't see the appeal. Even worse, it will be above that other bell pokémon in this gen. Being a fully evolved pokémon doesn't automatically make it better, guys! Where's the love for cuteness?''

OrangeCrush: ''I don't hate stall as much as some people, but Bronzong makes me rage. He's so bulky that he'd probably survive a nuke. He only has 2 weaknesses before Gen 6. Both of Bronzong's abilities cover one of its weaknesses, so you have to play a guessing game just to hit this jerk super effectively.''

63. Magmortar (Score: 3475)
Average Ranking: 56.05 (St. Dev: 34.29) Fully Evolved Rank: 46/68 Fire Rank: 3/5 Part of a preexisting Line: 17/29

3 - CasanovaZelos 3 - Magmortar 3 - Paul 7 - XIII 7 - Nick 9 - Wickle 10 - MSG 13 - Wizards 17 - Sorozone 17 - Arti 17 - Flubbin 17 - Comm 21 - JONA 23 - Goa 24 - Wigs 26 - Cody 28 - Luster 31 - BetrayedTangy 34 - junglebob 34 - Logicblade 35 - Eddv 36 - scarlet 36 - Xuxon 41 - ProfDEADPOOL 41 - Cybat 42 - Brohan 44 - Natwaf 44 - Bospsy 46 - Sanity 49 - do_ob 52 - Steiner 54 - mnk 54 - OrangeCrush 59 - Naye 61 - Snake5s 63 - Stifled 65 - FrostHarpy 66 - KBM 72 - Anagram 73 - Dragon66116 74 - red 76 - TexWolf 77 - Mana 82 - Inviso 85 - Scepter 87 - darkx 89 - starfox 94 - Raka 95 - Paratroopa 100 - swordz 101 - Brayze 101 - Ermine 101 - Karo 102 - Lefty 102 - Bane 103 - xx521xx 104 - Tazzy 104 - Ecks 104 - Gen 105 - Suor 105 - MI 107 - Drak

Magmortar: ''If I made this list at the time I made this account, yes, it would be my #1 for this generation (I want to get rid of this username VERY badly). But it’s still #3 so obviously, I still think pretty highly of it. It is Guts Man (people like Guts Man, right?) with arm cannons. And Thunderbolt to beat (most) Water-types. Come the **** on.''

XIII: ''Motherf***ing. Arm cannons.'' '''ARM. CANNONS.''' You expected anything less?!

MSG: MOTHERF***ING GOD DAMN ARM CANNONS MOTHERF***ER

Arti: ''arm cannons! makes it much better than electivire, just like magmar and magby are better than electabuzz and elekid.''

Flubbin: ARM CANNONS > YOU

Comm: F**mortat

Goa: ''I actually like him more than Electivire. When screening out kids back in the Gen IV Pokemon league days, one of my favorite tests was to send out Magmortar and use thunderbolt. Very few passed.''

junglebob: ''Magmortar would look really cool if it wasn't for those goofy lips. Still better than having a butthead I guess.''

Cybat: ''I had a lot of trouble placing this guy; I like the concept but the execution is a little lacking. Kinda like Magmar himself actually. But yeah arm cannons are cool.''

Brohan: ''fatass that ruined the magmar line. Next.''

Natwaf: Arm Cannons > YOUR FACE

do_ob: ''Flame thrower cannon arms that shoot bolt beams and solar beams as well. Your Nicki Minaj lips cut some points but I prefer to focus on your flame thrower arms. I'm actually one of the rare few who dig Magmar as well thanks to Blaine's bad ass Magmar, so Magmortar gets some bonus bias points.''

OrangeCrush: ''I don't know. He has an arm cannon, but he's ugly. SOMEONE MAKE UP MY MIND FOR ME!!!''

Stifled: ''Arm cannons are cool but this thing is so ugly otherwise. ''

KBM: ''The least bad in a string of very bad “final evolution additions” to Gen I Pokémon that sincerely didn't need them. Disregarding Magnezone, who is awesome. And I will not entertain arguments to the contrary.'' Anagram: I remember Arena in Star Trek: TOS, where the Gorn shoot at Kirk with mortars that are weaker than what we had in WWI

Inviso: Unnecessary and ugly evolution of an ugly Pokemon.

Raka: Embarrassment

Paratroopa: ''between his fatass body, his dumb face and gross lips, and his weirdly flesh-colored legs, this is just a hyperactive nightmare of regrettable physical features. and don't get me started on the pokemon! BA DUM TISH''

swordz: Some say a baby was the worst thing to happen to Magmar, but I say it's this thing.

Brayze: I normally like pokemon with butts on their faces or for their faces so magmortar was already in an uphill battle but WHOA they made him the daniel songer of pokemon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpgSbCSXFg

Ermine: ''I thought it would be quite hard to make a pokemon look worse than Magmar.... yeah...''

Karo: It is not at all surprising that a pokemon with an ass for a head would evolve into one with rectums for arms.

Bane: ''Creepy ass clown motherf*****. Magmar looks weird but at least he's funny.''

Ecks: ''This thing is so ugly, I bump it down my rankings every time I look at it. Horrible body shape, weird proportions, unnecessary claws and spikes, and that ugly f***ing face.''

Gen: ''I already disliked Magmar. Then they made Magby and I hated that. This thing? I loathe it. I think this is the only line that somehow got worse and worse with every generation and new installment. Just stop. Leave it alone, GameFreak. You are never going to make Magmar or anything related to it cool.''

Suor: ''lmao the evolution of lolmagmar with a giant boob as a forehead, somehow looking even more moronic than lolmagmar (which is, like, impossible). Gtfo loser.''

62. Carnivine (Score: 3467)
Average Ranking: 55.92 (St. Dev: 28.86) Fully Evolved Rank: 45/68 Grass Rank: 7/14

2 - Naye 4 - Xuxon 10 - Wigs 10 - Sanity 11 - Stifled 12 - Eddv 13 - Comm 14 - Lefty 16 - Snake5s 18 - TexWolf 21 - junglebob 21 - ProfDEADPOOL 22 - KBM 24 - JONA 25 - Paratroopa 27 - mnk 33 - Inviso 39 - Bospsy 40 - Paul 43 - XIII 43 - Mana 46 - Dragon66116 50 - red 51 - Nick 51 - Cody 52 - MSG 57 - OrangeCrush 57 - Suor 57 - MI 58 - CasanovaZelos 60 - Arti 60 - Flubbin 62 - FrostHarpy 63 - Luster 63 - BetrayedTangy 64 - xx521xx 68 - Anagram 70 - Raka 70 - Brayze 72 - Karo 73 - Natwaf 75 - Ermine 76 - Magmortar 76 - Wizards 76 - Bane 78 - darkx 79 - Steiner 82 - Ecks 84 - Logicblade 84 - scarlet 84 - starfox 85 - Wickle 85 - Brohan 87 - Goa 87 - Cybat 90 - do_ob 91 - Tazzy 94 - Scepter 97 - swordz 99 - Sorozone 102 - Gen 104 - Drak

Wigs: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/e/e2/Charley.png/revision/latest?cb=20140818162114

Sanity: Venus flytraps are badass.

Stifled: ''A floating Venus Fly Trap? Hell yeah! I don’t recall using one in the regular Pokemon games, but he’s a freaking beast in Pokemon Conquest. ''

Comm: ''Look at that derpy face. You can't hate it.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''I like the floating venus fly trap. ''

KBM: ''Okay, I don't know what the hell this is, but I like it. You can't say no to that goofy-ass grin.''

Paratroopa: holy s*** the motherf***ing hilarity of gen 4 really never stops does it, just look at this guy

Inviso: Ilove this thing for harassing James in the anime.

XIII: Why is this not grass/ghost?

Suor: The psycho version of Victreebel.

Arti: had too many problems catching this stupid pokemon to rate it any higher than this

Anagram: I’ve read that if a venus fly trap misfires or fails to catch the thing that lands in its mouth, it’ll die of starvation, because it can basically only snap shut one time per meal

Raka: Floaty

Brayze: This thing is a muppet

Natwaf: ''Pro Tip: Hire the guy that has Carnivine in Pokemon Conquest. He'll be overpowered at the time you get him.''

Magmortar: I was going to rank it higher because of it being a flytrap, but then I remembered Victreebel is one too and it’s better so basically yeah **** Carnivine.

Wizards: The cartoon makes me dislike this pokemon more than I would just based on the game.

Cybat: ''Man, a Venus flytrap is a no-brainer concept for a Pokemon, and they waited until gen 4 and came up with this?! ...Why are its eyes like that?''

do_ob: ''Being on my Pearl team can only get you so far, Carnivine. You were quite unspectacular tbh. I only chose you because I wanted to take a less-trekked path compared to Roserade. You weren't even that good in hurting James compared to Victreebel and Cacnea.''

swordz: We could have gotten a cool venus flytrap, but unfortunately we got this.

Gen: ''I love Venus flytraps. This is a disgrace to Venus flytraps. How does one even mess up a Venus flytrap? Like this I guess. I said Venus flytrap a lot didn't I?''

61. Cranidos (Score: 3420)
Average Ranking: 55.92 (St. Dev: 28.86) NFE Rank: 17/39 Rock Rank: 3/7 Cranidos Line: 2/2 Fossil Rank: 3/4

12 - Drak 17 - ProfDEADPOOL 18 - red 18 - MI 21 - Sorozone 22 - FrostHarpy 26 - Stifled 26 - Eddv 28 - Tazzy 29 - Brayze 30 - Gen 34 - Paratroopa 34 - xx521xx 37 - Ermine 38 - Nick 38 - Bane 39 - Xuxon 41 - Magmortar 43 - Inviso 43 - Ecks 47 - junglebob 47 - Wizards 49 - Comm 50 - Brohan 50 - swordz 51 - Mana 52 - Naye 53 - Arti 54 - KBM 54 - Paul 57 - Cody 57 - MSG 58 - Steiner 59 - Snake5s 60 - mnk 60 - Cybat 61 - Anagram 61 - Logicblade 63 - Karo 65 - BetrayedTangy 67 - Luster 69 - Flubbin 69 - starfox 70 - Wigs 70 - Goa 71 - CasanovaZelos 71 - Raka 73 - Bospsy 73 - scarlet 73 - Scepter 76 - Natwaf 78 - XIII 78 - do_ob 80 - JONA 83 - Dragon66116 83 - Suor 84 - Wickle 87 - Lefty 87 - TexWolf 91 - OrangeCrush 92 - Sanity 93 - darkx

ProfDEADPOOL: Cute dinosaur.

Stifled: Ocean Spray’s Cranidos-Apple!

Brayze: A little dinosaur guy who smashes his face into things and dies, allahu akbar cranidos, go in peace

Gen: ''I always thought of it as nothing more than "tiny Rampardos", but then Gen VI happened and it gained a rivalry with Tyrunt. I raised it 30 spots just over the nice fanart I found of it. '' http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/d2/4b/6c/d24b6cd603404c8fb44bfe25b7a3dda3.jpg http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/221/d/c/Cranidos_by_MBlock.png http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/265/d/4/cranidos_by_all0412-d5fkucg.jpg http://cdn.pokestache.com/2013/11/18/pokestache.com_7777_1384886931.jpg http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/263/4/d/pokemon__tyrunt_and_cranidos_by_alphamoonlight-d6me8b6.png http://25.media.tumblr.com/c513de735f5c2561b805d6a051e6a0c2/tumblr_mt3hsmVw1k1svlfs6o1_500.png

Paratroopa: ''awww he thinks he's going to grow up to be something cool. how adorable''

Magmortar: ''Cranidos is kind of cool. 125 base attack is absolute bonkers for an NFE, and as such it is intriguing that the first gym leader throws something literally as strong as Gyarados at you. And I like its build and design a whole lot. Cranidos has some early game notability whilst Rampardos I feel is…there to kill things and die. At the same time.''

Inviso: Evolves into a cool Pokemon, but looks a bit derpy.

swordz: This was the coolest little dinosaur we had until Tyrunt existed.

Arti: ''one of the base fossils. evolves too early to be of much use.''

Cybat: ''I love how they throw this guy at you in the first gym in DPP. The fight is still not too hard, obviously, but with 125 base attack, he definitely keeps you on your toes.''

Anagram: ''Anyone else ever see the movie Bulletproof Monk? I remember it being not completely horrible''

Raka: Bald

Natwaf: ''Stealth Rock was wasted on Roark's Cranidos. Still, Like it's design''

do_ob: A smaller Rampardos gives Cranidos some cuteness points.

Suor: This line is overall straight up offensive.

OrangeCrush: ''This is one of those dumb lines I don't care for at all, but will probably do really well. I guess I just don't see the appeal in most rock types.''

60. Skorupi (Score: 3415)
Average Ranking: 55.08 (St. Dev: 22.05) NFE Rank: 16/39 Poison Rank: 5/8 Bug Rank: 3/9 Skorupi Line: 2/2

6 - ProfDEADPOOL 6 - TexWolf 15 - Ermine 21 - Bospsy 21 - Lefty 25 - FrostHarpy 26 - MSG 27 - red 30 - Snake5s 30 - Sanity 31 - Brayze 33 - Logicblade 34 - Gen 34 - Wickle 38 - Suor 40 - Cybat 42 - Nick 43 - Paul 44 - Mana 45 - Tazzy 47 - do_ob 48 - Paratroopa 49 - Eddv 51 - MI 52 - mnk 53 - Inviso 53 - junglebob 55 - Xuxon 55 - OrangeCrush 56 - Anagram 56 - darkx 57 - Magmortar 57 - BetrayedTangy 58 - Arti 58 - Flubbin 59 - Sorozone 59 - Goa 61 - Naye 61 - Steiner 61 - XIII 63 - Comm 64 - CasanovaZelos 65 - scarlet 67 - Ecks 68 - swordz 69 - Bane 71 - Drak 74 - Brohan 75 - starfox 78 - Wigs 79 - Cody 79 - Raka 79 - Scepter 81 - Dragon66116 83 - Wizards 84 - Natwaf 86 - Stifled 86 - xx521xx 87 - KBM 88 - Karo 89 - Luster 103 - JONA

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Also a badass scorpion but not as awesome as the one that flies. But eh again it is a mixture of badass and cute like Gible. Not as god at either of them though.''

Brayze: Skorupi is getting this high mainly by being based on a scorpion, I mean let's face it he's not a very good scorpion, or even a good Skorpion, which is like half a gun and rose.

Cybat: ''He is only this high because I encountered a shiny one and he is an awesome shade of red. The evolution into Drapion was pretty disappointing. But also, yknow, can't go wrong with scorpions.''

do_ob: ''A cute little scorpion. Prelude to the awesomeness that is Drapion.''

Paratroopa: scorpions are rad, and this guy's a scorpion

Inviso: Cute, but Bug/Poison is still overused.

OrangeCrush: I was going to put him much lower, but he's actually sort of cute in a weird way.

Anagram: '' I wonder if they still make glasses for New Year’s Eve that are the date. I bet not, since there’s now only one 0. I bet people with eyepatches can still work them, though''

Magmortar: ''SCORPIONS. That’s about it. Scorpions are awesome and I guess so is Skorupi (not really but this generation gets SO bad at times being based off something cool in real life is ALL you need to be above a ton of ****).''

Arti: another average ranking for a swamp pokemon

swordz: ''Accordion scorpion. Why was this wasted on a first stage? We could've had a killer Pokemon here.''

Brohan: it's a scorpion

Raka: Tiny

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Stifled: ''Skorupees. ''

KBM: The kind of thing I want to call someone else in the room to squish for me.

59. Azelf (Score: 3414)
Average Ranking: 55.06 (St. Dev: 28.35) Fully Evolved Rank: 44/68 Psychic Rank: 2/9 Legendary Rank: 7/14

3 - Luster 6 - Ermine 12 - FrostHarpy 13 - Paul 16 - Karo 19 - OrangeCrush 20 - Brohan 22 - Ecks 23 - red 23 - mnk 24 - Steiner 24 - Natwaf 26 - Goa 29 - Nick 30 - scarlet 31 - Lefty 34 - Inviso 35 - Xuxon 35 - Magmortar 36 - Drak 37 - BetrayedTangy 37 - swordz 40 - Arti 41 - Flubbin 41 - Dragon66116 43 - Paratroopa 44 - Snake5s 46 - XIII 46 - Bane 47 - xx521xx 50 - Gen 51 - KBM 53 - Brayze 62 - do_ob 62 - darkx 68 - starfox 69 - Sorozone 69 - Comm 70 - Stifled 70 - JONA 72 - Tazzy 72 - Wigs 75 - Suor 77 - Eddv 79 - junglebob 79 - Wizards 82 - TexWolf 82 - MI 83 - CasanovaZelos 84 - Bospsy 85 - Logicblade 87 - MSG 87 - Wickle 88 - Anagram 91 - Cybat 91 - Naye 92 - ProfDEADPOOL 96 - Sanity 97 - Scepter 99 - Mana 103 - Cody 106 - Raka

Ermine: ''I think Azelf gets a bit too much flak from being part of the lake trio because honestly, I really think his design is quite great. The others are pretty lackluster when it comes to their design but Azelf really sticks out as being very cool. I looooove his tails, I think they are very well designed, along with the rest of him. I've used him a few times on competitive teams before and he was very fun :)''

OrangeCrush: I'm not fond of the Lake Trio as a trio, but Azelf is really fun to use in battle.

Ecks: ''By far the best of this gen's trio. ''

Natwaf: ''The best of the Lake Trio in looks and in combat, the sword Kusanagi. Very useful, even if it's typing is boring. And the music is so damn catchy.''

Inviso: The best of the Psychic trio in combat.

Magmortar: ''Azelf is an exploding pixie. That’s different, and definitely hilarious.''

swordz: Easily the best of the trio

Arti: legendary pixie 1

Flubbin: By far the best of the pixie trio.

Paratroopa: I think he's better than mesprit but I can't really give any reasonable explanation why, same thing really

XIII: ''Fun legendary. Frail, but could really go. And their theme is absolutely outstanding.''

Brayze: ''okay Azelf, after using you for no good goddamn reason on battle spot for a while, you've been upgraded to not-hate. Release the balloons!''

do_ob: ''It doesn't really matter how I rank you three in your own little group. You three elves are so similar in looks.''

Comm: The legendary trio no one cares about, but at least it's blue.

Stifled: ''The blue one is better than the yellow one but they all suck. ''

Suor: The coolest of the lake trio, which is something as relevant as saying that Haunter is an excellent ghost because it has detachable hands.

junglebob: ''The Lake trio is just so disappointing. They're all Mew ripoffs and all pure Psychic. Azelf's the highest just because it has the least amount of negative traits.''

Anagram: ''I wonder why elves get the most variations in everything they’re in. Even Warcraft has like four elf variations''

Cybat: Best design of the 3 and more fun because he is the attack one, but still pretty bad.

Raka: Interchangeable

58. Monferno (Score: 3408)
Average Ranking: 54.97 (St. Dev: 25.11) NFE Rank: 15/39 Fire Rank: 2/5 Fighting Rank: 7/7 Chimchar Line: 2/3 Starter Rank: 7/9

5 - OrangeCrush 13 - Mana 19 - scarlet 21 - starfox 22 - XIII 22 - Cody 25 - Ermine 25 - Comm 26 - Steiner 27 - Brohan 28 - xx521xx 28 - Gen 29 - Bane 33 - junglebob 35 - Inviso 36 - red 37 - Sorozone 38 - Dragon66116 40 - Karo 40 - Suor 40 - MI 45 - Nick 45 - Drak 45 - Scepter 46 - Arti 47 - Paul 47 - ProfDEADPOOL 50 - MSG 50 - Cybat 52 - Tazzy 52 - Anagram 54 - Snake5s 55 - Eddv 57 - Stifled 57 - JONA 60 - Luster 60 - swordz 61 - Xuxon 61 - BetrayedTangy 61 - KBM 65 - mnk 65 - Goa 66 - do_ob 67 - Natwaf 67 - darkx 68 - CasanovaZelos 71 - Logicblade 72 - Wizards 75 - Wickle 79 - Ecks 79 - Naye 84 - Magmortar 87 - Paratroopa 87 - Raka 89 - Flubbin 92 - Wigs 92 - Bospsy 95 - Brayze 97 - Lefty 105 - FrostHarpy 106 - TexWolf 106 - Sanity

OrangeCrush: ''He's one of my favorite middle stage Pokemon. Design wise, he's actually a great combination between badass and cute that most middle stages fail at miserably. His stats are also surprisingly good for a NFE.''

XIII: It's a good family, which makes even the middle evos look great.

Inviso: Decent enough, for a middle form.

Suor: ''Monkeys suck, they stink and generally aren't cool. Monferno looks carnivalesque without taking it to an extreme like Infernape does, so it's cool.''

Arti: ''chimpanzee, monkey, ape. it's not that obvious, but it makes some sense.''

Cybat: ''Solid middle-stage design. He kinda stole the burning tail thing from another Fire starter though.''

Anagram: ''I visited the Omaha Zoo while I was in Nebraska. I’ve heard it’s the best zoo in the country, and I did enjoy myself''

Stifled: ''Such a cool name. Such an average Pokemon. ''

swordz: Fire starters almost always have this middle evolution that's not as good as the 1st or 3rd form.

KBM: ''When, pray tell, did it become standard procedure to pair Fire with Fighting in the starters? It was cool when Blaziken did it, but now the monkey's just trying to copy the chicken. And that bright blue baboon-ass shading around its eyes is just weird and distracting.''

do_ob: ''Not even you can escape my starter Stage 1 negative bias, Monferno. You too suffer from the "Neither-cute-nor-cool" syndrome.''

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Magmortar: It destroys (although not as much as Infernape ends up), but I can’t say I like the design at all.

Paratroopa: weirdly enough actually the least despicable of the fire monkeys, he has his cute moments, SOMETIMES

Raka: Diseased

Flubbin: Yikes, Gen IV had some seriously ugly middle starters.

Bospsy: ''Middle evolutions of starters tend to fail a lot, especially fire types it seems. Monferno is no exception to that trend, which is a shame since Chimchar and Infernape are top tier pokémon in my book. ''

Brayze: I can't come up with something to say about monferno except that I hate it.

57. Bidoof (Score: 3394)
Average Ranking: 54.74 (St. Dev: 29.43) NFE Rank: 14/39 Normal Rank: 7/17 Bidoof Line: 1/2

1 - Flubbin 1 - Sanity 8 - junglebob 12 - Stifled 13 - Raka 15 - Anagram 17 - Ermine 19 - Cody 21 - Bane 23 - OrangeCrush 23 - Suor 24 - KBM 27 - starfox 27 - Paratroopa 30 - Xuxon 32 - xx521xx 33 - Nick 35 - Gen 35 - Wickle 36 - mnk 36 - Brayze 38 - Inviso 39 - Magmortar 43 - BetrayedTangy 45 - Logicblade 46 - Karo 47 - Scepter 48 - Brohan 48 - JONA 48 - Natwaf 49 - Wigs 50 - CasanovaZelos 51 - MSG 55 - Dragon66116 62 - red 63 - Eddv 66 - Snake5s 68 - MI 68 - TexWolf 69 - Ecks 70 - Luster 71 - do_ob 72 - Steiner 73 - Paul 76 - Comm 78 - Lefty 80 - Arti 80 - Cybat 84 - Mana 84 - Goa 84 - Naye 88 - Sorozone 88 - Tazzy 91 - Drak 92 - XIII 95 - ProfDEADPOOL 101 - darkx 101 - FrostHarpy 102 - Wizards 103 - Bospsy 104 - scarlet 106 - swordz

Flubbin: ''I know I'm a stupid idiot, but goddamn I love Bidoof so much. Something about him just clicks with me. Even before I knew about the Bidoof comics, which only further cemented my appreciation for Bidoof, I always had a strange fondness for him that's hard to explain.''

Sanity: The derpiest and therefore the best.

Stifled: ''Serious Bidoof*ge. I remember the Bidoof Comics on Board 8 fondly. ''

Raka: Helpful

Anagram: – I ****ing love Bidoof Comics

OrangeCrush: I'm dying Squirtle

Suor: The Bidoof comics were sort of funny, I miss them :(. Not much else is memorable about Bidoof I'm afraid.

KBM: ''The Adventures of Bidoof (which I imagine most of these write-ups will mention) are honestly one of my favorite things to come out of this board. Without that series, I wouldn't give a s***.''

Paratroopa: here is a guy I am friends with in real life: http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/111/6/1/wanna_catch_a_bidoof_now___sakura_con_2014_by_rainphotos-d7fd32p.jpg

Brayze: This is my national pokemon and I'm super OK with that, I think it accurately captures our national doofness, seriously our national anthem should be played on the tuba, or perhaps the even dorkier euphonium

Inviso: Bidoof comics are the only reason this ranks here.

Magmortar: ''Once on this site, Bidoof beat Edgeworth, which is both very sad and extremely hilarious. But when Bidoof beat Zelda it was just hilarious. Bidoof is stupid but whatever.''

Natwaf: Read the comics

do_ob: ''Internet meme. A B+ player compared to Mudkip though.''

Arti: ''i have a shiny bidoof. whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy''

Cybat: ''I had him lower originally but every time I went to look at his image it reminded me of the Adventures of Bidoof and it made me smile. So thanks Delseban, this extremely high ranking for such a terrible Pokemon is dedicated to you.''

Goa: ''Winner of the derpiest cry award. Growl should really raise its special defense rather than affect the opponent.''

Drak: The comics were never funny.

XIII: Bidoof comics save this from bottom 10.

darkx: Dumb meme but not as dumb as Mudkip.

Bospsy: ''The only reason that I ranked it this high is because of the comics. Is it worse than Lickilicky otherwise? It seriously might be. It just looks so dumb. ''

swordz: Oh look a dumb Pokemon turned into a meme.

56. Croagunk (Score: 3380)
Average Ranking: 54.52 (St. Dev: 25.01) NFE Rank: 13/39 Poison Rank: 4/8 Fighting Rank: 6/7 Croagunk Line: 2/2

3 - junglebob 9 - BetrayedTangy 9 - Dragon66116 12 - Brayze 12 - Logicblade 16 - Gen 22 - Sanity 24 - Tazzy 26 - ProfDEADPOOL 29 - darkx 30 - Brohan 31 - red 32 - Anagram 36 - Steiner 37 - Suor 38 - MI 39 - Paratroopa 40 - Mana 41 - Paul 42 - Inviso 42 - Scepter 43 - Ermine 45 - swordz 48 - Nick 48 - do_ob 50 - Cody 50 - Sorozone 51 - Karo 51 - CasanovaZelos 51 - Eddv 51 - Wizards 52 - XIII 52 - Bospsy 56 - Arti 59 - Flubbin 60 - JONA 61 - MSG 62 - Natwaf 63 - Magmortar 65 - KBM 66 - Raka 68 - Wigs 68 - Cybat 70 - Naye 72 - mnk 73 - Stifled 74 - Luster 75 - Snake5s 75 - FrostHarpy 78 - Wickle 78 - Ecks 78 - Goa 79 - starfox 85 - xx521xx 86 - TexWolf 89 - Bane 91 - Lefty 94 - Xuxon 96 - scarlet 97 - Drak 98 - Comm 102 - OrangeCrush

junglebob: '' Brock's Croagunk was the best thing about the show during the D/P seasons. ''

Brayze: When I was in school there was this sped kid they put boxing gloves on him to stop his excessive masturbation and much like him, croagunk has that expression because he's just waiting for you to turn your back

Gen: ''This will probably come across as another pokémon I have some inexplicable love for, but I can actually (sorta) explain this one! When I was a kid, I loved frogs. I'd go out catching them, keeping them for a while and releasing them, the whole nine yards. Since I was such a nature lover my parents got me the game Amazon Trail and it changed my life. Not really but it was a pretty big deal to a kid who wanted to be an explorer when she grew up. Poison dart frogs were just one of many colorful creatures you could capture on film in that game, and to this day they're still one of the coolest animals I know. My Croagunk love may be an extension of that. I look past that doofy face and see only potential.''

Sanity: Herp.

Anagram: The worst MGS boss will probably always be The Pain

Suor: Croagunk using Poison Jab to take out Brock when flirting was a classic.

Paratroopa: yeah hey croagunk, how's it going, wanna hang out, okay cool

Inviso: I love Fighting-types (as secondary typings).

swordz: I remember this thing always destroying Brock whenever he hit on ladies.

do_ob: ''Toxicroak is one of my favourite pokes. You sir, are but a prelude to that awesome thing.''

XIII: Love Brock's.

Arti: another pokemon found in that stupid swamp

Natwaf: Cool NFE Trash

Magmortar: ''Unique but REMEMBER. Unique does not equal good!''

Raka: Dirty

Cybat: ''Not the most poison-looking or frog-looking poison frog. But his typing is cool.''

Stifled: ''No, Snake! Don’t eat that frog! Snake? Snake?! SNAAAAAAAKE?!''

Goa: Nothing screems a kid's video game than a whole species of organism that looks like it was born to rob your house.

OrangeCrush: He's an ugly stoner.

55. Prinplup (Score: 3342)
Average Ranking: 53.90 (St. Dev: 23.14) NFE Rank: 12/39 Water Rank: 7/14 Piplup Line: 3/3 Starter Rank: 6/9

16 - Ecks 19 - Ermine 20 - Tazzy 21 - TexWolf 22 - MI 22 - Xuxon 24 - Comm 25 - Bane 27 - Magmortar 27 - Raka 28 - Wigs 29 - KBM 29 - Stifled 31 - Mana 38 - Karo 38 - scarlet 39 - MSG 41 - Bospsy 42 - Suor 42 - JONA 43 - Sanity 44 - Nick 45 - Gen 46 - darkx 46 - Brohan 46 - Paul 47 - Steiner 47 - Lefty 47 - Drak 48 - Dragon66116 52 - Sorozone 52 - xx521xx 53 - Snake5s 55 - Cybat 57 - swordz 57 - Arti 57 - Goa 58 - Logicblade 58 - Inviso 58 - Eddv 58 - Luster 60 - red 65 - starfox 66 - OrangeCrush 68 - do_ob 69 - CasanovaZelos 71 - Scepter 71 - XIII 72 - Natwaf 74 - mnk 76 - junglebob 77 - ProfDEADPOOL 79 - BetrayedTangy 81 - Paratroopa 88 - Flubbin 88 - Naye 88 - FrostHarpy 95 - Wickle 96 - Brayze 97 - Cody 101 - Anagram 106 - Wizards

Ecks: He's a great transition between Piplup and Empoleon, but doesn't stand out as much as either.

Ermine: Best of it's line.

Magmortar: ''I’m unsure. It has one of the funniest names ever, and has a cool design in its own dumb way. It’s pretty fun.''

Raka: Regal

KBM: ''Prinplup's fine, I guess, but my first time through Diamond when this is what my cute little Pippin evolved into I was pretty disappointed. I guess I actually do like the Grass line best this generation. By far. What a novelty. I can say that this is pretty useful in-game, when you get it.''

Stifled: ''A boring middle evolution, but still not bad. ''

Cybat: ''The only middle starter this gen to not get its secondary type. And has another awkward name. But hey, it's a penguin.''

swordz: I feel like I should like this thing more, but I don't. There's just something about it I can't explain.

Arti: ''second forms of starters aremostly boring. like prinplup.''

Inviso: A bit generic for a middle form.

OrangeCrush: There's something wrong with this guy's design that I can't quite put my finger on.

do_ob: ''I have a pretty low opinion of the starters' Stage 1. I don't have as much positive opinion about Piplup and Empoleon combined compared to Turtwig/Torterra and Chimchar/Infernape''

XIII: Penguins are good etc etc but this is just so obviously outclassed by Empoleon.

Natwaf: NFE Trash

Paratroopa: looks very proud of all his accomplishments, which include being one of the worst bird pokemon ever

Brayze: a penguin with down syndrome does not make a good pokemon

Anagram: ''When I was a little kid, before Pokemon came out, I had an art class project where we made statues of animals and then painted them. I made a penguin statue and painted it blue instead of black. Nintendo, I’m still waiting on my royalty checks''

Wizards: I hate penguins, and this one is the worst of them.

54. Chatot (Score: 3325)
Average Ranking: 53.63 (St. Dev: 31.59) Fully Evolved Rank: 43/68 Normal Rank: 6/17 Flying Rank: 11/14

5 - Stifled 7 - Ermine 8 - Eddv 10 - Raka 10 - Arti 10 - Goa 12 - Wigs 12 - Paratroopa 12 - Wickle 13 - xx521xx 14 - Xuxon 14 - darkx 14 - Flubbin 15 - Dragon66116 15 - red 18 - Anagram 21 - Suor 26 - Snake5s 33 - Cybat 36 - starfox 40 - JONA 40 - Inviso 44 - Sanity 44 - Lefty 47 - Nick 49 - Logicblade 51 - Bane 54 - Tazzy 54 - MI 54 - XIII 55 - Sorozone 58 - Ecks 60 - MSG 60 - FrostHarpy 62 - OrangeCrush 63 - Bospsy 64 - Luster 66 - Paul 66 - Scepter 67 - Magmortar 68 - ProfDEADPOOL 68 - Cody 69 - TexWolf 69 - Natwaf 73 - junglebob 75 - Brayze 78 - Gen 80 - Naye 85 - BetrayedTangy 89 - Comm 89 - CasanovaZelos 90 - Brohan 90 - swordz 92 - Mana 94 - mnk 95 - do_ob 96 - KBM 100 - Drak 103 - Steiner 105 - Karo 107 - scarlet 107 - Wizards

Stifled: ''I trained him to say waffles. True story. There are a lot of Grass type trainers in Gen 4, particularly in the early part of the game. I had a blast wiping the floor with them with my buddy Chatot. ''

Ermine: ''ADORABLE in-game cry. Loved him in the Mystery Dungeon game and he generally just has a really great design in my opinion.''

Raka: Eccentric

Arti: ''chatot's in that “why did you train this to level 100” camp, and its gimmick is pretty useless. but i do have a level 100 one! /effort''

Goa: ''Gamefreak has a long tradition of giving us both great Pokemon, and trolling us with those that are offensive, gimicks, and just good enough to be annoying. Chatot manages to be all three. First, it was banned for giving us the means to finally spew profanity at our friends in Pokemon battles. Then, they gave it the only high accuracy damaging move that always inflicts confusion. All hail Chatot, the true king of trolls.''

Wigs: ''Dumb but funny gimmick. Also HIS FACE IS A MUSIC NOTE OMG''

Paratroopa: ''look. he's a parrot, with a music note for a head. what more do you even need''

Anagram: ''I had a parrot for ten years. His name was Chico. I taught him to say “I am Chico.” I was a clever six year-old''

Suor: One of my biggest regrets as a Pokémon player is not using the Chatter recording gimmick when it was available so I could spam “QUE HACES BESANDO A LA LISIADA!!” as its cry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piFFNUAhy4A

Cybat: ''The online issues with this guy were hilarious (and hilariously predictable). It's basically just another Farfetch'd but with a better design (the musical note head is great) and movepool (Boomburst!).''

Inviso: Unique concept that got ruined in later Gens.

XIII: ''I used to be so interested in Chatot when I heard about its gimmick. It's quite a neat Pokemon in some ways but utterly nondescript in some others.''

Bospsy: I didn't particularly care for its gimmick, and I still don't. It really needs an evolution too.

Magmortar: ''Its signature move is banned and one of the TIIIIINY number of moves Smeargle can’t copy. I guess that’s something.''

Natwaf: Did you know this thing is faster and hits harder with Boomburst compared to Exploud?

Brayze: ''I like that they took out his 'make your own chatot call'. If I had that feature when I was a kid, there would be a lot of japanese children who would be given the unfortunate news that they have 'super AIDS', quite possibly in their butts''

swordz: Chatter used to be neat and that's enough to get this high.

do_ob: Poor thing is as forgettable as Farfetch'd

KBM: ''I like music. I love music. Music is literally my *profession*. And even *I* think this bird looks stupid. (And I'm told it's also useless.)''

Drak: Could've gotten a middling rank if he weren't completely awful in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

Karo: Another f***er that looks like it was sketched by the gamefreak design team when they were dropping acid.

53. Starly (Score: 3293)
Average Ranking: 53.11 (St. Dev: 20.57) NFE Rank: 11/39 Normal Rank: 5/17 Flying Rank: 10/14 Starly Line: 3/3

4 - OrangeCrush 20 - TexWolf 21 - Mana 27 - Wigs 27 - Bane 27 - Scepter 27 - Drak 29 - MSG 30 - Anagram 31 - Sanity 32 - Karo 34 - ProfDEADPOOL 35 - Wizards 37 - Raka 37 - Inviso 38 - darkx 40 - Ecks 41 - Paratroopa 41 - JONA 41 - Sorozone 42 - MI 42 - KBM 44 - Logicblade 45 - Stifled 45 - Magmortar 45 - Brayze 46 - Ermine 49 - Lefty 50 - Snake5s 51 - Xuxon 52 - FrostHarpy 53 - Naye 54 - Wickle 55 - red 56 - Tazzy 58 - Comm 58 - swordz 59 - Natwaf 60 - Eddv 60 - Cody 61 - scarlet 62 - Nick 64 - Gen 65 - Bospsy 66 - Dragon66116 67 - xx521xx 67 - XIII 68 - Arti 68 - mnk 69 - junglebob 70 - starfox 71 - Flubbin 72 - Luster 73 - Suor 77 - Steiner 79 - Paul 81 - CasanovaZelos 85 - Goa 86 - Cybat 99 - BetrayedTangy 99 - Brohan 101 - do_ob

OrangeCrush: I love starlings, and Starly is really cute.

Anagram: ''It’s bizarre to me that I’m too old to enter American Idol. I wouldn’t, because I don’t care about reality TV or music, but I remember when it first came on''

Raka: Huggable

Inviso: Cute, but generic first form.

Paratroopa: ''decent attempt at being a small round bird, could be better. B-''

KBM: ''This is as bland and unremarkable as Pidgey clones get. Literally, what sets this apart at all?''

Stifled: ''It’s supposed to be young and cute but it looks kinda fat and balding. ''

Magmortar: ''Starly wrecks a lot of early Gen 4, and that’s pretty cool, see a non-starter kind of dominate in-game like that. Its cry has always been a strong spot to me. Can’t explain why on that part.''

Brayze: you know at this point it is probably possible to do an entire pokemon game that only has bird pokemon

swordz: Cute generic bird Pokemon and the best first form of the 3 stage beginner birds

Natwaf: NFE Trash

XIII: What a good job this becomes the GOAT bird.

Arti: there are a lot of them.

Suor: Grey pigeons yay, I almost never see these anywhere.

Cybat: Gains some points for what he becomes, but yeah, just another bird-looking bird.

do_ob: ''Staraptor looks awesome. Staravia is eh. But shrinking Avia to create its basic form produced this black, gray white blob of a bird.''

52. Gastrodon (Score: 3277)
Average Ranking: 52.85 (St. Dev: 27.49) Fully Evolved Rank: 42/68 Water Rank: 6/14 Ground Rank: 8/10 Shellos Line: 1/2

1 - Paratroopa 1 - Brayze 4 - Drak 10 - Flubbin 13 - Eddv 15 - swordz 16 - Naye 17 - Wigs 17 - Wickle 23 - Logicblade 23 - Cody 24 - MI 24 - FrostHarpy 27 - OrangeCrush 28 - Karo 29 - TexWolf 31 - xx521xx 33 - Luster 38 - Goa 40 - Bane 40 - Anagram 40 - Sanity 40 - Tazzy 43 - CasanovaZelos 45 - Raka 48 - Snake5s 50 - Comm 50 - scarlet 51 - mnk 51 - Brohan 52 - Mana 53 - Gen 53 - BetrayedTangy 54 - ProfDEADPOOL 54 - Natwaf 62 - Ermine 63 - XIII 68 - Lefty 70 - red 71 - JONA 71 - Suor 72 - Scepter 72 - KBM 72 - Arti 72 - junglebob 74 - Magmortar 74 - Cybat 75 - Sorozone 76 - MSG 76 - Nick 76 - Paul 78 - Wizards 81 - Stifled 83 - darkx 84 - Xuxon 85 - do_ob 88 - Ecks 93 - Steiner 94 - Dragon66116 99 - Bospsy 103 - Inviso 107 - starfox

Paratroopa: ''definitely my undisputed fave pokemon from gen 4, just look at him, he is rad in every way, awesome sea slug with a cute-weird face. both versions are good''

Brayze: This guy is so afraid of salt you don't even know

Drak: blob blob, blob blob blob

swordz: Both of them have nice designs, but the blue one is still better

OrangeCrush: ''He's one of those cheap Swampert knockoffs. Good, but makes you long for the real thing.''

Goa: With such a proud tradition of derpy water/ground types in Pokemon, how could I not like Gastrodon.

Anagram: ''Man, I hope I don’t go gray. My dad had no gray hairs until he was 62, and even at 64 he has well over 90% black hair, so I think I may be okay''

Raka: Slimy

Comm: ''Anything I rank lower than this Pokemon is pretty bad. I hate its design, but I love Water/Ground typing. That was truly enough to secure a top 50 spot this gen.''

Natwaf: ''I wanted to rank this higher, but… nah. Storm Drain is useful, and it's just cute! Not too hot on stats though.''

XIII: ''Ah, the Staraper. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/gothic-spirit/291.jpg''

Suor: ''The only funny thing about Gastrodon was when Paul's raped Ash's Staraptor. Literally. In the ass.''

Arti: still not a shiny, screw you game freak

Magmortar: ''I don’t care if it is good. Yuck.''

Cybat: ''Shiny trolling aside, there is really nothing interesting about this Pokemon. Annoying to fight, sure, but interesting? Nope.''

Stifled: ''It has a pretty cool name, but the color schemes are so ugly. ''

do_ob: ''I've never been a fan of the Shellos line. Bunch of wobbly sea slugs.''

Inviso: Yet another lame-ass Water/Ground-type.

51. Staravia (Score: 3275)
Average Ranking: 52.82 (St. Dev: 21.26) NFE Rank: 10/39 Normal Rank: 4/17 Flying Rank: 9/14 Starly Line: 2/3

4 - Sorozone 10 - OrangeCrush 10 - Ecks 16 - KBM 18 - Gen 21 - Drak 21 - Ermine 22 - TexWolf 23 - Wigs 26 - Dragon66116 29 - xx521xx 32 - Mana 34 - Raka 34 - Suor 40 - Naye 40 - Steiner 41 - FrostHarpy 42 - Snake5s 43 - Luster 46 - Nick 46 - Stifled 47 - JONA 48 - Wickle 48 - MI 48 - Anagram 48 - Bospsy 51 - Flubbin 52 - Karo 54 - Lefty 54 - red 55 - Sanity 57 - scarlet 57 - Inviso 59 - Arti 60 - Paratroopa 60 - Scepter 60 - starfox 61 - Eddv 62 - Bane 62 - Comm 63 - Logicblade 65 - XIII 67 - CasanovaZelos 67 - ProfDEADPOOL 69 - Magmortar 69 - Wizards 70 - junglebob 71 - Xuxon 72 - Cody 72 - Goa 73 - Cybat 73 - MSG 74 - Brayze 75 - Tazzy 75 - Natwaf 78 - swordz 78 - BetrayedTangy 78 - Paul 80 - Brohan 83 - mnk 87 - do_ob 95 - darkx

OrangeCrush: I love starlings.

Ecks: ''The Starly line is really solid, and Staravia shines with my favorite design. One of the best middle evolutions.''

KBM: ''At least we're doing the Pidgey clone thing right this time and giving it a middie. Pidgeotto was always my favorite of the bunch by far, so it's good to have a three-stage evolutionary line back so that we can have a member that looks majestic without going overboard.''

Gen: ''It looks so sweet and huggable with its little curly cue hairdo. Chirp chirp? Chirrup! It's way cuter than Starly but not nearly as cool as Staraptor.''

Raka: Hip

Suor: ''A slightly larger grey pigeon, or a bad Pidgeotto. Being a bird past its first stage is of course enough reason to rank it high.''

Stifled: ''Hi average birdy. No way you’ll evolve into something new and exciting…''

Anagram: ''One time, my sister and I were at a theme park, I think Disneyland but it might have been Seaworld or something, and we got some hot dogs. We were like six or seven. Anyway, my sister took hers, and as she walked to our table, a seagull swooped down and stole her hot dog. She cried until our mom bought her another one''

Inviso: A bit generic for a middle form.

Arti: another boring middle evo

Paratroopa: I sort of like staravia the more I stare into his grumpy ass face, but man fix the hair okay

XIII: Leads nicely into Staraptor but not good on its own.

Magmortar: whatever really, pre-evo and final evo are way better

Cybat: ''Cool name but weird head. But hey at least it means you are close to Staraptor.''

Brayze: staravia is mad that his mom made him go to the barber school to get his hair cut

Natwaf: ''NO NO NO YOU CUT OFF THAT HAIR YOUNG POKEMON! GO TO YOUR ROOM!''

swordz: ''This is one of those awkward middle evolutions for me. It's not as cute as Starly or as awesome as Staraptor.''

do_ob: ''Not looking like a black and white blob like Starly can only get you so far, Staravia. You're as forgettable as they come, like so many default birds and rodents in every gen.''

50. Bastiodon (Score: 3252)
Average Ranking: 52.45 (St. Dev: 24.07) Fully Evolved Rank: 41/68 Rock Rank: 2/7 Steel Rank: 5/10 Shieldon Line: 1/2 Fossil Rank: 2/4

1 - Sorozone 2 - Brayze 12 - Arti 12 - swordz 17 - Goa 18 - KBM 19 - Eddv 20 - Paratroopa 25 - Suor 27 - ProfDEADPOOL 28 - Sanity 29 - Wizards 30 - Magmortar 32 - XIII 33 - TexWolf 34 - Ecks 34 - Steiner 34 - Cybat 37 - Xuxon 38 - Cody 41 - MI 41 - CasanovaZelos 45 - Wigs 45 - Luster 45 - Paul 50 - Mana 51 - Raka 52 - do_ob 53 - Bospsy 54 - Nick 55 - Natwaf 57 - Comm 58 - FrostHarpy 58 - Scepter 58 - darkx 59 - scarlet 61 - Stifled 62 - Snake5s 63 - OrangeCrush 63 - starfox 63 - MSG 64 - JONA 65 - junglebob 65 - Tazzy 68 - Inviso 69 - Gen 70 - Dragon66116 71 - red 72 - Flubbin 76 - Logicblade 76 - mnk 77 - BetrayedTangy 78 - Naye 80 - Ermine 80 - Lefty 82 - Wickle 83 - Karo 83 - Bane 85 - Anagram 90 - Drak 96 - Brohan 106 - xx521xx

Brayze: There is no flyer ride than a fully chromed bastiodon

Arti: ''i got shieldon over cranidos, and decided to train it. it was pretty useful in-game despite being defense oriented''

swordz: I bet it is going to get a ton of hate and I can admit it is kind of ugly, but dammit this thing is still cool looking.

KBM: ''This evolution looks so silly I actually do have to kind of like it. It has windows. In its forehead. They're lit.''

Paratroopa: look at this ridiculous mf'er rhydon only wishes he could have an entire shield for a face, and not even like a dinky buckler kind of shield either it's like a full on tower shield

Suor: ''It's all a matter of preference really: some prefer a pokémon with a blue glans on its head and others a beast with literally a castle tower as its face. Wait, one is clearly cooler than the other, hmmm.''

Magmortar: ''The ugliest Pokemon ever? Quite possibly. The single most pathetic signature Pokemon of a Gym Leader ever? ALSO quite possibly (at least until I remembered Brock never evolved his Onix in Johto games). But somehow I can’t say it’s the worst thing ever. It being THAT ugly is certainly notable, and Metal Burst is legit cool, especially since unlike Aggron it CAN take hits from both sides of the offensive spectrum.''

XIII: ''It has a shield. FOR A FACE. And I love the way it vs. Rampardos calls back to the whole "unstoppable force vs. immovable object" thing or most notably the "strongest sword vs. the unbreakable shield" legend.''

Cybat: ''Triceratops was my favorite dinosaur when I was a kid, so his being in the same family is great. Of course, his typing is a little unfortunate, but with Sturdy and Metal Burst he can still do some damage.''

Raka: Defensive

do_ob: ''A gigantic, snarling metal shield for a head. I'll definitely have doubts about breaking through Bastiodon's shield face if I were facing him. ''

Natwaf: ''The inferior fossil, but WATCH OUT! Sooner or later you'll face one with Sturdy and uses Metal Burst. You have been warned.''

Stifled: ''Bastiodon! Pterydactyl! Triceratops! Saber-toothed tiger! Tyrannosaurus! ''

OrangeCrush: ''I always smile when I see this thing. It looks so damn bulky, but whenever it comes out my current Pokemon seems to always have Earthquake, Close Combat, or at least Brick Break. And there it goes in one hit!''

junglebob: Jeez, did this gen really need two defensive Rock/Steel Pokemon?

Inviso: Lame-ass fossil compared to the other choice.

Flubbin: I kind of like the concept but good lord is this thing ugly.

Anagram: ''Ever wonder why spikes are associated with evil? It makes no real sense. We know spikes are independent of evil because of the amorality of stalagmites and stalactites, so that means every time someone makes spiky armor for a bad guy, he’s consciously associating spikes and evil''

Brohan: looks like ass

49. Riolu (Score: 3211)
Average Ranking: 51.79 (St. Dev: 25.04) NFE Rank: 9/39 Fighting Rank: 5/7 Riolu Line: 2/2 Baby Rank: 1/8

6 - Bane 7 - TexWolf 11 - red 11 - Karo 11 - xx521xx 13 - Dragon66116 15 - do_ob 16 - OrangeCrush 21 - Stifled 26 - starfox 28 - Drak 29 - mnk 30 - BetrayedTangy 31 - Anagram 33 - Goa 33 - Comm 34 - scarlet 36 - junglebob 37 - CasanovaZelos 38 - Magmortar 41 - swordz 41 - Tazzy 42 - Paratroopa 42 - Ermine 44 - Brohan 45 - darkx 46 - Wizards 46 - FrostHarpy 48 - Mana 49 - Bospsy 51 - Gen 52 - Sanity 55 - KBM 56 - Ecks 58 - Cybat 60 - Snake5s 60 - Logicblade 61 - Wickle 62 - Steiner 62 - Scepter 64 - Flubbin 65 - Arti 65 - Nick 65 - MSG 65 - Inviso 66 - Cody 70 - Sorozone 71 - Brayze 73 - XIII 73 - Naye 75 - Xuxon 76 - Wigs 81 - Luster 81 - Paul 83 - Eddv 83 - Raka 88 - ProfDEADPOOL 90 - MI 92 - JONA 98 - Natwaf 99 - Suor 101 - Lefty

Bane: ''Mini badass in the making. Good coloring just like his evolution, good design, doesn't have the Steel sub-type but whatever. Good job making a cool baby Pokemon.''

do_ob: ''Looks like a karate kid in training. Pretty fitting for what he'll evolve into.''

OrangeCrush: ''Gen 4 has a lot of bad babies, but Riolu is actually pretty cool. He has a good design, carries his weight in battle, and Prankster can allow him to pull off some gimmicky sets.''

Stifled: ''He’s like Lucario only vertically challenged. He works his 9-5 job at Gringotts Bank with the other goblins. ''

Anagram: ''Remember Scrappy Doo? Everyone does for some reason. He wasn’t even in the original show''

Magmortar: Riolu isn’t great and I would prefer you not have to train one from LEVEL 1 for in-game use (I used a Riolu in my nuzlocke, and leveling it up wasn’t very fun), but it is absolutely adorable

swordz: I really like this thing even though it's basically a mini Lucario.

Paratroopa: ''technically a baby pokemon by most sensible metrics but doesn't really feel like one. whatever, he's a'ight''

Ecks: It's cute, better than Lucario.

Cybat: ''Pretty severely overshadowed by his adult form, and it's annoying that he is a baby and thus evolves with friendship, but this guy is definitely well designed. ''

Arti: a not terrible baby pokemon, will wonders never cease

Inviso: It's okay, but just nowhere near as cool as Lucario.

Brayze: ''They had to make a lucario for pedophiles too! I mean that's three quarters of the japanese population at least, and probably everyone in florida''

XIII: Annoyingly difficult to get in DPP

Wigs: ''This guy reminds me of Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle. No idea why.''

Raka: Insignificant

Natwaf: ''Why must Riolu make getting the perfect Lucario annoying? Stupid babies''

Suor: ''If I know one thing about Lucario it's that Riolu's existence is completely unjustified and unneeded. The world is bad enough with just Lucario.''

48. Palkia (Score: 3161)
Average Ranking: 50.98 (St. Dev: 27.78) Fully Evolved Rank: 40/69 Dragon Rank: 6/6 Water Rank: 5/14 Legendary Rank: 6/14

4 - Natwaf 9 - Paul 10 - Nick 12 - scarlet 14 - Cody 19 - TexWolf 20 - Wizards 21 - Luster 25 - Tazzy 25 - Cybat 25 - Snake5s 27 - Goa 28 - do_ob 30 - Arti 30 - ProfDEADPOOL 31 - Magmortar 31 - KBM 31 - Sorozone 31 - XIII 32 - CasanovaZelos 33 - Stifled 33 - Ermine 34 - Bane 34 - darkx 35 - JONA 36 - Scepter 38 - Brohan 39 - BetrayedTangy 40 - FrostHarpy 40 - Logicblade 44 - Comm 44 - MSG 45 - Flubbin 46 - Wigs 51 - red 55 - starfox 56 - Mana 58 - Dragon66116 58 - junglebob 59 - Sanity 61 - xx521xx 64 - Steiner 65 - Ecks 65 - Raka 65 - MI 70 - Bospsy 72 - Wickle 74 - Naye 79 - Karo 82 - Drak 85 - Gen 87 - Inviso 87 - Xuxon 88 - swordz 90 - Paratroopa 91 - Anagram 93 - Lefty 94 - Brayze 102 - mnk 103 - Suor 104 - Eddv 107 - OrangeCrush

Natwaf: ''Space **** >>> Dialga. Oh sure, the typing's already been used, but the design is much better, and holy crap in combat. Great music as well. My 2nd MVP in my HG post-game team. EAT SPACIAL REND DRAGONS!''

Cybat: ''Kinda weird looking with its long neck and doesn't look like a Water type in the slightest. But Spacial Rend is a great signature move, and I love the chaos when he shows up in Smash and flips the screen.''

do_ob: ''You're lucky you're bipedal, Palkia. If not, your colour scheme would've put you below Dialga.''

Arti: ''i played pearl first even though i preordered both for the stylus set. palkia > dialga''

Magmortar: ''Honestly, it took me years to figure out why it was so mocked (I expect every other write-up to be about how it looks like Mr. Happy). Once I did, I could never take it seriously again. Generally a lot better than Dialga (this coming from a Diamond player).''

KBM: It's a cool design, but most of this generation's Legendaries really don't do all that much for me.

XIII: Spacial Rend.

Stifled: ''I like the Water/Dragon typing. At first the pink tones kind of threw me off, but its design grew on me quickly. ''

Wigs: not nearly as cool as Dialga because he doesn't GUGYUGUBAH

Raka: Phallic

Karo: ''The hell are those things on its shoulders? spare tires in case its trainer's car has a flat?''

Gen: ''(just out this writeup on whoever places higher I guess) These are the worst cover legendaries, and the poster children of whoever comes up with ideas for this series going too far. Before Generation IV, legendaries were things associated with monuments, landmarks, natural occurrences, etc. Some had rare powers limited to causing storms, making plants grow and traveling through time, and changing the weather. With Gen IV they just went way too far, giving legendaries the power to control TIME AND SPACE, AND LIFE ITSELF, AND CREATE A NEW WORLD, etc. It was just too much. It was all too f***ing much. At that point they're no longer rare and powerful pokémon, but GODS. Oh and there's a legendary that's literally God to top things off.''

Inviso: This thing looks generic and dumb.

swordz: Every write-up will mention how it looks like a dick.

Paratroopa: they made dialga, and then they were like "cool but how can we make this even more stupid", then they gave it a neck that would make most giraffes blush

Anagram: ''I hate WoW’s art style for making gigantic pauldrons popular. Granted, it wasn’t the first game to do it, but it was the most influential''

Brayze: The god of space surely can find somewhere to shove it

Suor: ''A legendary mecha-penis head should indeed have a legendary mecha-vagina head counterpart to compensate. Legendaries in Gen 4 are so awful that they didn't even try to make them fit together conceptually. How lame.''

OrangeCrush: ''I mentioned this in Nosepass's writeup last gen. Having a bad design is bad enough on its own, but having a bad design when you're a prominent Pokemon is so much worse. And it doesn't get much more prominent than being front and center on Pokemon Pearl's boxart. Palkia literally has a p**** for a head and that's not cool. Pearl's mascot is a dragon showing off his head junk. Why did Gamefreak think this was a good idea? I was going to be nice and -only- give him #106, but as I wrote this writeup I realized that nothing is more deserving of #107, and being my least favorite Pokemon ever. Congratulations Mr. Dickhead Dragon, you earned it!''

47. Pachirisu (Score: 3137)
Average Ranking: 50.60 (St. Dev: 27.33) Fully Evolved Rank: 39/69 Electric Rank: 7/7

5 - Mana 7 - Karo 8 - xx521xx 9 - KBM 9 - Suor 12 - Bane 12 - red 15 - ProfDEADPOOL 15 - Ecks 16 - Arti 21 - Eddv 25 - Drak 26 - Raka 29 - Cody 31 - darkx 31 - Xuxon 32 - Nick 32 - Ermine 33 - XIII 33 - Paratroopa 36 - do_ob 37 - Stifled 38 - Wizards 38 - Anagram 39 - Sanity 44 - MI 45 - Dragon66116 46 - OrangeCrush 48 - mnk 49 - junglebob 52 - Comm 54 - Goa 54 - Wigs 55 - Tazzy 55 - Flubbin 55 - Naye 56 - Scepter 56 - BetrayedTangy 60 - Wickle 60 - Lefty 61 - Paul 61 - TexWolf 62 - Brayze 64 - Snake5s 64 - MSG 65 - Logicblade 67 - Bospsy 70 - FrostHarpy 74 - swordz 76 - Gen 78 - Natwaf 80 - Inviso 81 - JONA 83 - Luster 86 - CasanovaZelos 89 - Cybat 94 - Brohan 94 - Steiner 98 - starfox 101 - Sorozone 105 - scarlet 106 - Magmortar

Karo: Fun fact: the winner of the last pokemon world championships had a Pachirisu on his team.

KBM: What is it with Gen IV and super-cute Electric types?

Suor: ''Only good Pikaclone: more bulk, cool and different color scheme and an awesome squirrel tail. Man I love this little guy, it's also quite handy in double battles as a support but I don't need to prove that for you, someone already did.''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''It is a fairly cute squirrel. And then someone used it to win the Pokemon world championship. Hell yeah. Squirrel power''

Arti: ''besides rotom there were no decent electric types so i trained a pachirisu in either diamond or pearl. last time i go for the pikachu rejects at least''

Raka: Lovely

darkx: One of the escapees of my extreme love for electric rodent Pokemon.

Ermine: ''CHUPA CHUPA! Dawn's Pachi was actually pretty good IMO. Didn't hate it like I thought I would.''

XIII: ''http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M8LXy8Sq--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zwg5rxswhem437sfxv0x.png - what a f***ing hero. Pachirisu went from being in the lower reaches of this list to something far nearer the top just on the basis of Sejun Park's HEROIC win in the world championships. He is like the ideal Pokemon trainer. He didn't whine about the metagame not suiting his tastes, he took his favourite Pokemon - Pachirisu - and made it work for him. And now he's the WORLD F***ING CHAMPION. So much love for the thing now.''

Paratroopa: some guy won the world championships with a pachirisu or something so I guess pachirisu is your new overlord now, suck it

do_ob: ''Best Pikachu-lite of the whole bunch. Emolga took a while to warm up to, Plusle and Minun were too similar to Pikachu to think positively of. Dedenne is just bad.''

Stifled: ''Electric nuts. ''

Anagram: '' I’m ashamed to admit that I watched like a billion episodes of Rocky and Bullwinkle without realizing it was about the Cold War. I was like six though, I’m not sure I knew what the Cold War was''

Comm: Cute Pokemon, but did we really need another Pikachu clone?

Goa: '' Though squirrels are cooler than mice, its not like we have a ton of electric rodents already. If it had better stats or evolved I'd probably like it more. Gets some props for being 2014 Pokemon World Tournament annual WTF is he doing here winner though.''

Brayze: if I ever get a facebook account I am going to use a blingee portrait of pachirisu as my icon because I am a half-glitter half-werewolf pachirisu-kin otherkin

swordz: Another Pikachu ripoff, but this thing is surprisingly strong and is cute.

Natwaf: ''You guys hear about that one guy who used a Pachirisu on his World Championship team? You do realize it's just a target so Garchomp can do it's MVP thing right?''

Inviso: Useless Pikachu clone.

Cybat: ''At least he's slightly more creative than Plusle and Minun. But that doesn't make him not forgettable or worthless. (Yep, almost out of my bottom 20, and we're still in "worthless" tier. Oh, gen 4)''

Magmortar: ''WHY THE **** IS IT SO ****ING BULKY AT THE TIME YOU FIGHT THEM OH JESUS GOD WHY I even like squirrels BUT NO PACHIRISU IS AWFUL AND ANNOYING AND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. Seriously it is the only Pikaclone that gives the original any competition and that’s saying a few things. Maybe like a decade ago this pickle would actually be below Happiny.''

46. Drifloon (Score: 3085)
Average Ranking: 49.76 (St. Dev: 25.20) NFE Rank: 8/39 Ghost Rank: 7/7 Flying Rank: 8/14

5 - Naye 6 - Lefty 6 - Paul 11 - Drak 14 - Comm 15 - Bospsy 17 - KBM 17 - junglebob 17 - BetrayedTangy 19 - Paratroopa 19 - MI 21 - Gen 23 - Brayze 24 - Cody 25 - do_ob 25 - CasanovaZelos 27 - Mana 27 - Logicblade 28 - Stifled 33 - OrangeCrush 40 - xx521xx 43 - Karo 43 - Sorozone 44 - Inviso 45 - JONA 47 - Arti 47 - mnk 47 - MSG 48 - Wizards 51 - Cybat 52 - Goa 53 - Ecks 54 - Bane 55 - TexWolf 56 - scarlet 57 - Ermine 57 - Brohan 58 - Wigs 61 - Flubbin 62 - starfox 63 - Anagram 66 - Tazzy 66 - Steiner 68 - Raka 68 - Xuxon 68 - Wickle 70 - ProfDEADPOOL 70 - swordz 72 - Suor 72 - darkx 74 - XIII 74 - Natwaf 76 - Luster 78 - Scepter 81 - Sanity 84 - FrostHarpy 86 - Nick 87 - red 89 - Magmortar 90 - Dragon66116 92 - Eddv 92 - Snake5s

Comm: The whole idea of it kidnapping children makes me laugh.

Bospsy: ''Great design and a fun pokémon to have in your party/at a party. I don't really care for the cloudhair though. ''

KBM: ''At least we can still do Ghost Pokémon right, among the myriad things this gen does wrong, and the Flying dual-type is a nice tough. This little guy's cute. I would use him.''

Paratroopa: you might not think a balloon could be adorable but you're f***ing wrong here's drifloon

Brayze: ''Abortions are completely unnecessary in pokemon world thanks to this little guy! Keep on truckin' hell balloon.''

do_ob: This little cute looking guy KIDNAPS CHILDREN.

Stifled: Can I make balloon animals out of you?

OrangeCrush: It's Friday, Friday, gotta get a Drifloon on Friday!

Inviso: ''It'll take your children away. Don't f*** with Drifloon.''

Arti: ''a balloon. ok''

Cybat: ''Cool idea for a ghost design and typing. But mostly he is this high because of one of my favorite Pokedex comics: http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le9t91OWdV1qb5ps3o1_400.png''

Anagram: James Cameron should make a Titanic sequel about the Hindenburg

Raka: Fun

swordz: A ghost balloon is a pretty neat idea.

Suor: … and why the f*** does it have hearts as hands?

Natwaf: ''Weird how Ghost is evil but dark is just misunderstood, when Dark is called Bad/Evil in Japan. Anyway, cute balloon that kills children. What's not to like?''

Magmortar: ''Whatever. Being Friday exclusive is just bull****.''

45. Spiritomb (Score: 3023)
Average Ranking: 48.76 (St. Dev: 26.20) Fully Evolved Rank: 38/68 Ghost Rank: 6/7 Dark Rank: 5/7

9 - darkx 9 - Sanity 10 - TexWolf 11 - Naye 13 - Goa 13 - Wigs 16 - junglebob 20 - KBM 20 - Arti 23 - Natwaf 24 - mnk 24 - Snake5s 27 - Lefty 27 - Wizards 27 - swordz 28 - FrostHarpy 29 - Eddv 33 - Brayze 33 - do_ob 33 - Brohan 35 - Suor 36 - Cody 36 - XIII 37 - Anagram 38 - Paul 38 - JONA 39 - xx521xx 39 - starfox 40 - MSG 40 - Raka 42 - Luster 43 - Xuxon 44 - Ermine 48 - Inviso 49 - Dragon66116 51 - Scepter 51 - Magmortar 53 - Steiner 54 - Mana 56 - Bane 56 - Nick 58 - BetrayedTangy 59 - OrangeCrush 62 - Flubbin 62 - Tazzy 66 - Sorozone 66 - ProfDEADPOOL 71 - Cybat 74 - Wickle 75 - CasanovaZelos 75 - Ecks 76 - Stifled 79 - Paratroopa 80 - Logicblade 89 - MI 91 - Bospsy 94 - scarlet 95 - Karo 96 - Drak 97 - red 98 - Gen 106 - Comm

darkx: ''I like to pretend that this is made up of the dead souls of Pokemon and their trainers. Becomes a hell of a lot creepier that way.''

Sanity: I don’t know why, but a ghost hovering around a rock amuses me.

Wigs: I once saw someone get Wonder Guard onto this guy somehow.

KBM: ''For such a s****y generation, it actually really knocks it out of the park whenever it comes to Ghost types. There are four that I like MORE than Spiritomb. And he's still honestly really cool.''

Arti: ''i don't think i ever caught spiritomb the legit way. i think i picked one up on the gts. cool design and lack of weaknesses.''

Natwaf: ''WONDERTOMB! While obtaining it in Gen IV was REALLY annoying, I love how you obtain it in Gen VI's Sea Mauville. Spooky as ****''

swordz: ''I never got this thing until ORAS since it was always inconvenient for me. I love the design though''

Brayze: ''He's an awful face that comes out of a magic stone, sort of like those images of jesus that appear on everything. I propose a spiritomb based religion would probably make more sense HOOO burn to Christianity''

do_ob: ''A whirling, evil ball of darkness with no weakness. *GASP*''

Suor: Spiritomb always catches my attention, what with it being formed by 108 evil souls and randomly showing up like a creep.

XIII: ''Spiritomb is an utterly unique Pokemon. The way you catch it in DPP is asinine but besides that he's just so odd, I have to rank him high. There's no Pokemon quite like Spiritomb; not even Sableye, the only Pokemon to share the typing, can really be compared to Spiritomb - it stands totally on its own. Also it is the combination of 108 souls, and its base defences are 108 and its weight is 108 kg. Nice touch. I hate fairy for removing the Dark/Ghost no-weakness thing.''

Anagram: ''Every time I get roped into bowling I end up with a score of like 80 or 90. One time I got 111, which I’ve never gotten close to again''

Raka: Ghostly

Inviso: I like Dark/Ghost, but this was a b**** to catch.

Magmortar: It’s a big improvement over Sableye in every field I can think of, but could it be…easier to actually get one?

Cybat: ''Fun typing of course but I don't like this design very much at all. Also, the way you got him in DPP was dumb. At least he is a little interesting because of 108 and all.''

Stifled: ''He likes to go bowling but is often mistaken for the ball. ''

Paratroopa: kinda harkens back to the time when gastly's sprite was a lot weirder and scarier but I'm sorta over it now

Gen: ''Just a complete waste of potential. Read its pokédex entries and then look at its stupid dickface. I also can't forgive it for stealing Sableye's unique typing. But with Prankster, then a Mega evo or Eviolite, Sableye had the last laugh in the end. Suck it, Spirit**d.'' (Yes, it actually made me sensor this)

Comm: ''This isn't even a Pokemon. It is a glob of shapes.''

44. Vespiquen (Score: 2981)
Average Ranking: 48.08 (St. Dev: 27.45) Fully Evolved Rank: 37/68 Bug Rank: 2/9 Flying Rank: 7/14 Combee Line: 1/2

1 - Eddv 1 - Raka 1 - Mana 2 - Cybat 3 - Suor 8 - KBM 9 - Bospsy 12 - Sanity 14 - mnk 15 - Inviso 15 - Sorozone 23 - Magmortar 23 - Gen 24 - Scepter 25 - Wizards 25 - Wickle 27 - scarlet 31 - JONA 32 - Flubbin 35 - Arti 37 - starfox 38 - Tazzy 38 - Comm 42 - FrostHarpy 42 - Logicblade 43 - Anagram 45 - BetrayedTangy 45 - Ecks 47 - darkx 47 - Stifled 48 - CasanovaZelos 49 - OrangeCrush 50 - Dragon66116 51 - Natwaf 52 - Paul 53 - MSG 53 - ProfDEADPOOL 54 - Naye 54 - junglebob 54 - swordz 54 - do_ob 63 - Goa 64 - XIII 65 - Wigs 67 - Snake5s 68 - Nick 68 - Karo 72 - xx521xx 74 - TexWolf 75 - Cody 79 - Brohan 79 - Luster 82 - Bane 83 - Xuxon 84 - Paratroopa 85 - Ermine 86 - Lefty 86 - MI 88 - Brayze 89 - Drak 95 - Steiner 107 - red

Raka: Amazing

Cybat: ''Clever concept with the rare queen bee and all, and she is suitably scary-looking. Hurt by being yet another Bug/Flying Pokemon, but come on, three signature moves! That are all really good!''

Suor: One of the best pokémon designs and concepts ever, and it is really ****ing scary, moreso than Beedrill itself maybe.

KBM: ''Combee evolves into something that's actually not awful. That alone is actually shocking information, much less that Vespiquen is actually kind of a legit badass. The Order attack set is actually really cool, and it manages to look identifiably like a badass bee Pokémon without making me feel physically ill whenever I look at it (Beedrill). One of the more surprising favorites of the generation.''

Sanity: So slender and sexy.

Inviso: I prefer this to Beedrill (though maybe not Mega Beedrill).

Magmortar: ''A cool concept that is largely made useless by that typing, Vespiquen is a very unfortunate case. She’s pretty awesome, THREE exclusive moves give it a lot of notability.''

Arti: ''some interesting moves and stuff but another bug / flying. at least it brings something new to the table.''

Anagram: ''When I was a kid, my friend Josh and I built a clubhouse in my backyard. As soon as we finished making an enclosure, a hive of wasps somehow appeared. My dad tried to get rid of them, but no matter what we did, they either survived or came back. Eventually we had to destroy the clubhouse''

Stifled: ''But there are two e’s in queen! TWO!''

Natwaf: ''Let's ignore how ****ing annoying getting one is (female only in a species that rarely has a female one?). Vespiquen has the looks and… well, the Orders are a neat idea.''

ProfDEADPOOL: Eh a decent bug

swordz: ''I hate bees, but Vespiquen is pretty cool. If only it wasn't so annoying to get.''

do_ob: She looks quite ok flying beside Beedrill actually.

XIII: ''Three signature moves is a cool idea. What a pity that ''its Vespiquen'

Paratroopa: oh man like it should be like this really cool bee/alien looking thing but it just kind of looks like kind of weirdly matronly, like it's wearing a gown, it's a weird shape and it just doesn't work for me

Brayze: a surefire way to ruin a pokemon is to slap a damn gown on it, thumbs down vespiquen

43. Turtwig (Score: 2912)
Average Ranking: 46.96 (St. Dev: 24.94) NFE Rank: 7/39 Grass Rank: 6/14 Turtwig Line: 2/3 Starter Rank: 5/9

2 - Wigs 2 - MI 4 - KBM 5 - Bane 7 - junglebob 11 - Ecks 12 - Naye 14 - Logicblade 16 - Comm 16 - TexWolf 17 - Anagram 21 - Tazzy 22 - Raka 22 - OrangeCrush 24 - Mana 24 - Bospsy 25 - swordz 35 - FrostHarpy 36 - Sorozone 39 - red 40 - Ermine 40 - Lefty 41 - Cody 42 - Karo 44 - Dragon66116 45 - ProfDEADPOOL 46 - Scepter 46 - MSG 46 - do_ob 47 - Cybat 47 - XIII 47 - Brohan 48 - Arti 49 - JONA 52 - scarlet 53 - Goa 55 - CasanovaZelos 55 - Nick 56 - Stifled 58 - Magmortar 58 - Snake5s 60 - xx521xx 61 - Luster 63 - Suor 63 - Sanity 63 - Drak 64 - darkx 65 - Flubbin 66 - Gen 69 - Brayze 70 - Natwaf 70 - Xuxon 72 - BetrayedTangy 72 - Paul 72 - Paratroopa 73 - Steiner 81 - mnk 81 - starfox 86 - Wizards 90 - Eddv 97 - Inviso 105 - Wickle

Wigs: TurtWIGS obv

KBM: ''Cutest Grass starter by far. I would actually pick this guy voluntarily. That little sprout on top of his head pushes him into adorable territory and makes it less weird that he's a turtle.''

Bane: ''Another cutie. His little stubby legs and little leaf on top of his head are cool. Between him and Piplup it's hard to choose a starter there.''

Ecks: ''I've grown very fond of this line over time. Turtwig isn't really traditionally cute, but there's something about it I like.''

Anagram: ''I’ve actually never played Metroid Prime past about thirty minutes. Is it good?''

Raka: Fine

OrangeCrush: He's a solid start to his line, but not a great one.

swordz: ''Best first form grass starter. I just really like this turtle.''

do_ob: AwesomeTurtwig

Cybat: ''Cute starter first form, blah blah blah. He's no Squirtle obviously, but he's pretty cool.''

XIII: The worst starter of the bunch, but not bad.

Arti: all hail, starter of the losers

Stifled: ''It’s both cute and not cute. ''

Magmortar: Turtwig is adorable, but I don’t really find it useful for the time it is in that stage.

Brayze: ''what's small and green and an absolute disgrace to turtles everywhere? It's you, turtwig. I don't want to see you ever again.''

Natwaf: Cute NFE Trash

Paratroopa: ''well, they made a turtle grass starter, and you think that would be really hard to mess up, and... boy, they sure tried!''

Inviso: Turtles suck and this line is overrated.

Wickle: ''I stated my hate for the Bulbasaur line in the first gen. All this ****ing line did for me is rehash my hate for that line and shove it on this line for just plain existing. There are a couple later Gen Pokemon that I hate for their schemes being close to a pre-existing Pokemon's scheme. And we already had a line that grew life on its back... as a grass starter. *sets fire to this line* (I wanted to not hate Grotle for this since I like Ivysaur... but he got minor aid).''

42. Gible (Score: 2912)
Average Ranking: 46.66 (St. Dev: 25.46) NFE Rank: 6/39 Dragon Rank: 5/6 Ground Rank: 7/10 Gible Line: 3/3

1 - Nick 3 - ProfDEADPOOL 5 - Lefty 6 - Anagram 8 - Ermine 10 - junglebob 11 - Sanity 17 - Bane 19 - KBM 20 - FrostHarpy 20 - MSG 21 - Snake5s 22 - Bospsy 24 - OrangeCrush 24 - Suor 25 - MI 25 - XIII 31 - swordz 32 - TexWolf 34 - Arti 34 - Wizards 35 - Mana 35 - Dragon66116 35 - Drak 37 - Tazzy 38 - starfox 39 - Sorozone 43 - Flubbin 44 - Wigs 45 - Steiner 48 - darkx 49 - Cody 49 - Goa 49 - Inviso 53 - red 53 - Scepter 53 - JONA 54 - Ecks 54 - CasanovaZelos 54 - Luster 55 - Wickle 56 - Natwaf 57 - Paul 62 - BetrayedTangy 63 - Gen 67 - Naye 67 - Logicblade 67 - Comm 67 - Paratroopa 70 - Magmortar 72 - Cybat 73 - Brayze 76 - Raka 79 - Eddv 83 - do_ob 83 - Brohan 83 - xx521xx 84 - Stifled 90 - scarlet 90 - mnk 92 - Karo 98 - Xuxon

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Cute but also scary and badass. I mean it is a shark thing with the ability to kill you but also so cute.''

Anagram: ''By the time I see this Gible write-up again, I will have already seen the movie Jupiter Ascending. I’m hoping it’s as bad as the trailers make it look''

Ermine: ''GIBLEEEEEE! Gible is DEFINITELY a pokemon that really benefited from the Gen 4 anime. I really didn't think I'd like him much at first, but his VA is fantastic and I often find myself imitating the voice just because of how much fun it is to do. His Draco Meteor always hitting Piplup was hilarious and honestly actually boosted Piplup himself for me as a result. Gible's battle with Shuckle in the anime was amazing as well, loved it. Also, I love how he always just has his hands sticking out the way he does, dunno why.''

Sanity: ''What a great name. And a LAND SHARK? I like it.''

KBM: What a cutie.

MSG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckEIGJeUI2o

OrangeCrush: ''He was part of the epic Ash vs. Takuto/Tobias battle. He also constantly puts Dawn's Piplup in its place.''

Suor: GIBLE!!

XIII: GIBLE'S DRACO METEOR LOL

swordz: I really wish I could rank Gible higher since it's pretty amazing.

Arti: ''gible looks hilarious and i love it. shame it's pretty hidden in game like all pseudo legends''

Wigs: if grimer and lapras had a demon spawn baby

Inviso: Cute little shark mouth on tiny body.

Natwaf: ''Gotta love the roar. DO THE ROAR! ''

Paratroopa: ''how cool gible is is fully dependent on what angle you view him from. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/6/68/443Gible.png/250px-443Gible.png cool. http://media.pocketmonsters.net/characters/2071.png NOT COOL''

Magmortar: ''An improvement over Bagon. But still really really bad. People think this thing is cute? (how far down is this list and still at terrible Pokemon oh my god…Gible is ONLY in 70th place?)''

Cybat: ''Sort of weirdly cute and terrifying at the same time. It looks more like an enemy from an old-school platformer than a Pokemon.''

Brayze: he's mostly mouth and he's shaped like a hamper and he's the crappiest of the garchomps, that still makes him probably the best of the first evo dragons before GOOMY

Raka: Scawwy

do_ob: ''Young Gible's evolved forms looks pretty slick. But not Gible. Little Gible is but a blue stump. His gimmick of biting Ash's head feels forced as well.''

Brohan: ''gible is the embodiment of 'goober'. its whole body is a head and it has those short stubby little arms. its face says "even i dont know what im doing"''

Stifled: ''I’m glad to see Special Ed kids have a Pokemon that truly represents them after four generations. ''

Karo: ''What is it with these designers and giving pokemon mouths that take up their entire body cavity? it looks f***ing stupid.''

41. Porygon-Z (Score: 2892)
Average Ranking: 46.64 (St. Dev: 27.68) Fully Evolve Rank: 36/68 Normal Rank: 3/17 Part of a Preexisting Line: 16/29

6 - darkx 6 - Paratroopa 8 - Paul 9 - Steiner 9 - Inviso 11 - Lefty 11 - JONA 12 - starfox 13 - Brayze 14 - Anagram 16 - FrostHarpy 16 - xx521xx 17 - Naye 17 - Stifled 18 - Ecks 22 - junglebob 26 - mnk 28 - CasanovaZelos 29 - Goa 29 - Natwaf 29 - Magmortar 30 - XIII 31 - scarlet 32 - BetrayedTangy 33 - Raka 36 - ProfDEADPOOL 36 - Snake5s 36 - Wizards 37 - do_ob 39 - Nick 42 - Eddv 48 - Sorozone 49 - Flubbin 51 - Arti 52 - OrangeCrush 56 - Cody 57 - Luster 58 - Sanity 58 - Suor 59 - Ermine 59 - MSG 61 - Dragon66116 61 - Comm 62 - Wigs 63 - swordz 66 - Drak 68 - Bospsy 69 - Cybat 75 - Brohan 77 - Logicblade 80 - Scepter 80 - Xuxon 81 - KBM 81 - TexWolf 83 - Tazzy 86 - Bane 86 - Mana 87 - Gen 91 - red 93 - MI 93 - Wickle 104 - Karo

darkx: My love for the Porygon family should not surprise anyone from the Gauntlet crew.

Paratroopa: oh cool so ^$*he's like a zzxxxk weird m8jessed up version ofn hhhhnnh3%%%%%%%%%%11

Inviso: I love the Porygon line, and this is the best one.

Brayze: ''seizure duck used L-dopa. It's getting less effective...''

Anagram: I love Baldur’s Gate II even though it’s glitchy as hell

Stifled: ''Virtual Duck! Does all the things a duck does ONLY IN VIRTUAL REALITYYYYYY!''

Ecks: ''Pory gone crazy. Might be my least favorite of its line, but still decent.''

junglebob: If you haven't seen Porygon-Z's Gen 6 animations, I urge you to look them up and then reconsider your opinion on it.

Goa: Pory, pory, por-por-pory, Porygon-Z!

Natwaf: ''HERE we go! Used one in Battle Factory where it scored key KOs. Love the firepower and how crazy it looks. Thank you virus!''

Magmortar: ''Although that ridiculous power is certainly a good thing (if it hits you with a boosted Hyper Beam, pray), I am much more clingy to Porygon2. But I do like how they tried to give an evolution a very different but still viable playstyle from its predecessor.''

XIII: THE STRONGEST HYPER BEAM IN THE GAME OH MY GOD WIRG9BTHIRDHPHSGWVHEGHER HYPER BEAM IS THE BEST MOVE ANFRU9G4HTRE YES

Raka: Dizzying

do_ob: ''I like the concept of Porygon-Z. Porygon was a primitive program. 2 was the program refined. Z was upgraded to such an extent that it glitched out.''

Arti: ''still a victim of the seizures to be never featured in the anime, ever. it's an interesting choice to use though!''

OrangeCrush: ''I don't know what to think of this guy. I had him higher at first, but then I thought about it and realized he's just a downgrade to Porygon2 in terms of both design and combat ability.''

Suor: ''This thing single-handedly killed my dream of running Eviolite Porygon without having Porygon2 there to outclass it in the same role. Funny part is that Porygon2 outclasses Z too. I hope the Antivirus finds you and deletes you.''

Comm: We really didn't need a 3rd Porygon.

Wigs: more like porygonZzzzzzzzzzzzz

swordz: Looks like a Porygon that got into drugs

Cybat: ''It is funny that you can have a 3rd-stage Pokemon at level 1. And obviously I understand what they were going for. But I do not like this thing very much. Also, why was there no hyphen for Porygon2?''

KBM: Porygon has never done anything for me as a species, and this one just looks like ovals were randomly thrown at the paper and/or computer screen on which it was designed.

Wickle: 01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110011 01110100 01110101 01110000 01101001 01100100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01110011 01101111 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101

Karo: Much like Dragon Ball, adding a Z to the name just makes it worse.

40. Hippowdon (Score: 2891)
Average Ranking: 46.63 (St. Dev: 22.24) Fully Evolved Rank: 35/68 Ground Rank: 6/10 Hippotpotas Line: 1/2

11 - Wizards 17 - FrostHarpy 18 - CasanovaZelos 18 - Wickle 19 - Sorozone 20 - Steiner 20 - Magmortar 20 - Cody 21 - BetrayedTangy 23 - Paul 25 - Gen 26 - Xuxon 27 - Anagram 27 - Tazzy 28 - XIII 31 - Eddv 31 - Dragon66116 32 - Goa 32 - Natwaf 32 - Brohan 34 - starfox 34 - Nick 34 - Mana 35 - Wigs 35 - KBM 36 - Suor 36 - Logicblade 38 - Arti 40 - Paratroopa 41 - mnk 42 - Raka 42 - MSG 43 - TexWolf 46 - Comm 46 - Cybat 47 - OrangeCrush 49 - Luster 50 - Inviso 52 - Flubbin 53 - do_ob 54 - scarlet 55 - Brayze 55 - Scepter 57 - Lefty 63 - darkx 63 - Snake5s 63 - MI 64 - junglebob 64 - ProfDEADPOOL 66 - JONA 66 - Sanity 71 - Ecks 74 - Stifled 75 - red 76 - Bospsy 79 - Bane 81 - swordz 82 - Karo 83 - Naye 90 - Ermine 92 - Drak 107 - xx521xx

Magmortar: ''I like tanks, and I like hippos. Hippowdon was very useful in my Platinum nuzlocke and it’s just awesome.''

Anagram: ''I hate sand. It’s course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere''

XIII: ''One of few stall Pokemon I can really get behind. Hippo's design is simplistic but that's fine, and he's really useful in battle and I weirdly enjoy using him despite my aversion to stall. ''

Goa: ''Hippos! Plus its nice sandstorm teams don't need to use an pseudo-legendary now.''

Natwaf: ''The other Sandstorm center. BULKBULKBULK, and I just love Hippos. So unassuming but if you anger it you're dead.''

KBM: ''Cool design, with it swimming in the sand like it's water and all. I don't care all that much though. This is probably the very upper end of my “completely meh” tier this gen, which is vast and never-ending.''

Suor: ''The forgotten Sand Stream user. It would look like a plain hippopotamus if it weren't for the cool sprites and official artwork it gets, making it look like some fierce monster coming from the sands.''

Arti: i think it's good but all it ever did was annoy me with sand stream

Paratroopa: ''someone at game freak understood the true, horrifying terror that hippos really are, they are nature's most brutal killers, can you imagine if hippos actually lived in the desert and came out of the sand like that? I would never travel in deserts but I kind of wish that they did that and killed a bunch of people because it would be cool''

Raka: Forceful

Cybat: ''Can't quite compete with Tyranitar, but it was great to see other Pokemon get weather abilities. (At the time, at least…before weather teams became unbearable.) But this thing is also no slouch at looking and being badass. It's also great how it has a really different female form for tricking people into thinking they found a shiny.''

Inviso: Cool enough design, but I'm not a fan of bulk.

do_ob: ''He looks like he can chomp your head off. And Sand Storm.''

Brayze: He just looks really dumb with no ears

junglebob: ''Why did they keep giving Hippowdon sprites where its lower body just became sand? It was nice to actually see its full body in Gen 6.''

Stifled: ''A big ugly beast that rolls around in its own filth? I’ll pass. ''

swordz: I never thought Hippopotas would turn into something decent looking, but this guy proved me wrong.

39. Gabite (Score: 2870)
Average Ranking: 46.29 (St. Dev: 19.44) NFE Rank: 5/39 Dragon Rank: 4/6 Ground Rank: 5/10 Gible Line: 2/3

1 - Gen 6 - Snake5s 11 - Ermine 13 - ProfDEADPOOL 16 - Dragon66116 16 - do_ob 24 - MSG 25 - Anagram 25 - junglebob 26 - Naye 30 - Sorozone 30 - starfox 31 - Brohan 32 - Steiner 32 - Tazzy 34 - Goa 34 - Wigs 35 - Sanity 37 - FrostHarpy 37 - scarlet 38 - OrangeCrush 38 - Ecks 41 - Bane 41 - xx521xx 42 - Comm 43 - KBM 44 - Wickle 44 - Flubbin 44 - Karo 46 - Brayze 47 - Luster 48 - XIII 48 - TexWolf 49 - CasanovaZelos 49 - Natwaf 50 - Nick 50 - Arti 50 - mnk 50 - MI 52 - swordz 54 - Logicblade 54 - Cybat 54 - JONA 55 - BetrayedTangy 56 - Wizards 58 - Paul 59 - Eddv 59 - Paratroopa 61 - Magmortar 61 - Scepter 64 - Mana 65 - Xuxon 67 - red 69 - Suor 71 - darkx 75 - Stifled 77 - Cody 77 - Raka 77 - Lefty 77 - Drak 78 - Inviso 93 - Bospsy

Gen: ''I don't even know... I feel like such an Ermine right now. Um... to me Gabite just looks perfect. I love reptiles because they look super cool and sometimes even cute by extension of looking cool. If you want a Garchomp you're gonna be stuck raising a Gabite for a while, but that's not a bad thing. It looks about as tough as it actually is, and since it looks like it could pass for a fully evolved that means it looks pretty tough!''

ProfDEADPOOL: ''Suffers from awkward teen syndrome a bit but still pretty cool. And the entire land shark line and concept is great.''

do_ob: Much sleeker than Gible.

Anagram: ''My sister had a medical condition where she couldn’t bite down fully on one side of her teeth. Eventually it was fixed, though''

KBM: ''Gabite sort of epitomizes the “adolescent awkwardness” phase of so many middies. It's not as bad as something like Combusken (nowhere close), but it's not *good* either.''

Brayze: He is extreme attitude teen garchomp trying to find his way in the world screw you dad I don't want to bite everything I'm a vegan free mumia

XIII: Predictably the worst of the family, but a lot of fun to use.

Natwaf: ''It's so twiggy, but I like it's design! Still nothing on the awesomeness that is Garchomp''

Arti: ''nibble, bite, chomp. huh I never noticed that before.''

swordz: Hello there awkward middle dragon

Cybat: ''Could be a fully evolved design in his own right; you can't say that about a lot of middle forms. He's also a nicer shade of purple than his family members. Silly name though.''

Paratroopa: garchomp lite, when you're up for "whatever"

Magmortar: An improvement over Shelgon, and it being obtainable at Victory Road in Platinum is a plus (both for grinding and to get a Garchomp late if you didn’t want to go the long way in training one) and uhh…yeah, I don’t LIKE it but the design really isn’t that bad.

Suor: Why the hair curlers though?

Stifled: ''Herpity derpity herple derple doo. ''

Raka: Half-baked

Inviso: It looks like Garchomp without being Garchomp.

38. Arceus (Score: 2856)
Average Ranking: 46.06 (St. Dev: 27.57) Fully Evolved Rank: 34/68 Normal Rank: 2/17 Legendaries: 5/14

2 - Natwaf 3 - Snake5s 3 - Arti 6 - XIII 11 - scarlet 11 - Paul 12 - MSG 13 - Luster 15 - Tazzy 17 - JONA 20 - Wickle 22 - Wigs 23 - Brohan 24 - Sanity 24 - Bane 25 - BetrayedTangy 26 - Sorozone 26 - Wizards 28 - Flubbin 29 - Cybat 30 - do_ob 32 - ProfDEADPOOL 32 - swordz 32 - Bospsy 34 - Cody 35 - Nick 37 - Magmortar 38 - TexWolf 38 - CasanovaZelos 39 - Comm 39 - KBM 40 - OrangeCrush 42 - darkx 43 - Logicblade 46 - starfox 46 - red 50 - Naye 52 - Ecks 53 - Dragon66116 55 - Inviso 56 - Raka 59 - Xuxon 62 - xx521xx 63 - Scepter 66 - MI 67 - Gen 67 - Stifled 68 - junglebob 70 - Steiner 70 - Lefty 73 - Anagram 73 - Mana 74 - Ermine 79 - mnk 80 - Paratroopa 87 - Drak 90 - Goa 96 - Karo 98 - Brayze 98 - Suor 103 - Eddv 104 - FrostHarpy

Natwaf: ''All hail the one and only Arceus, our Lord and Master. Not quite Mega-Ray and RBY Mewtwo levels, but he's still a god in combat. Fantastic battle music, and the HGSS cutscene must be seen. Let's not forget how OP this thing is in Conquest. Truly the poke-god''

Arti: ''that awkward zombie character about video game gods with pikachu holding up a pic of arceus is hilarious. had to trade for it to complete the dex though''

XIII: ''Arceus gets a bad rap. The legends surrounding Arceus are really interesting to me, and the two events featuring it are two of the most well-done events in the history of the series. I love its ominous battle music too, I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6z_1cCvVjA holy crap he will rock your face. It's really unlike any other theme the series has ever done. Also, the HGSS event was some crazy s***, guys. Arceus used Google Images and it did super-effective damage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxC1kXm_AVs - seriously what the hell is this it's awesome. The unreleased Azure Flute event is one of my favourites too, the way the theme in the background is the title theme played in reverse adds a sense of "this is a big deal" to the whole affair. The way you can reinterpret the cave painting in Celestic Town as being Uxie/Mesprit/Azelf balancing Dialga and Palkia or you can reinterpret it as Dialga/Palkia/Giratina circling around and worshipping Arceus is also worth noting. Last but not least, Extreme Killer Arceus in Gen IV ubers - the best ever tier - is simply a towering inferno of death and destruction, and rendered any team without 1 of like 9 Pokemon on it completely redundant. The amount of battles I won in about 10 turns by setting up Swords Dance and just plowing straight through with this thing, unreal. Arceus is a great Pokemon and my favourite legendary. And I like legendary Pokemon a lot.''

Sanity: ''Weird design. It’s overly complicated in a good way. Looks like some sort of nightmare beast.''

Flubbin: ''I used to think Arceus was kind of meh, but the way XIII always hype him up made me appreciate it more. ''

Cybat: ''I do not agree with the decision to include a "god" legendary, nor do I understand whatever mythology its design is based on. And its ability and signature move are pretty lackluster given its canonical power. But all that said, it is pretty impressive looking and it is interesting to be able to customize it to so many different playstyles.''

do_ob: ''I like my legendary pokes bipedal. It's cool that you're God and strong and can change type and all though.''

swordz: ''The GOD of all Pokemon has arrived. I only wish it was cooler, but it being able to be any type in the game was interesting.''

Bospsy: ''I don't like the concept of a God pokémon, but Arceus does have a nice design. It certainly looks creatorlike and the "ring" around him is pretty neat. The main reason I put him so high, even though I generally dislike legendaries, is because of its majestic hair. ''

Magmortar: ''For some reason I can see it being in a Rankin Bass Christmas special. God Reindeer! Ooooh yeah. Anyway Arceus is alright and kind of odd, obviously it has a lot of variety (and unlike Mew or Smeargle, the stats to supplement that) and that makes it really fun to play around with. But I could just not get into its design at all. Weird viney wire deer?''

KBM: ''I don't really know, man. These Legendaries, with a couple of exceptions, really just aren't doing anything for me. Gone are the days of the awesome birds. Nowadays we're just making OMG IT'S A LARGE THING and calling it Legendary.''

Ecks: For something that's supposed to be the Pokemon God, he's a bit disappointing.

Inviso: I only like it for letting me say "Oh my Arceus!"

Raka: Godlike

Stifled: ''I dunno about God. Maybe John the Baptist? ''

junglebob: ''I think PokeGod has a boring design, and there are more interesting ways for Pokemon to change typing. It also sounds stupid in Smash Bros.''

Anagram: Always remember that Hollywood is so strapped for ideas that it released two unrelated Hercules movies in 2014 alone

Paratroopa: ''well if you're the pokemon god why do you look so dumb, huh? nice pedicure, or are those like, ballet slippers for some reason, basically what is going on with your feet I'm asking''

Drak: ''Spawns some of the worst MPFC arguments in existence. Why do I count this guy's fanbase against him, when I don't for, say, Lucario and Espeon? It is a mystery.''

Goa: I think this is low enough to count as a “F-you god”.

Karo: This broken piece of s*** can go burn in poke-hell with Mewtwo, Kyogre, and mega-evolution in general.

Brayze: ''Pokemon is so inherently stupid that I don't think it can actually jump the shark, but if it could, this would be it. Now you too can capture God and have it fight against rats and ghost baloons for your enjoyment! The fact that it's some sort of surrealist dog doesn't do it any favors''

Suor: ''Arceus is supposed to be God, or the pokémon world's answer to God. What Arceus' movie taught us is that Arceus is instead a pompous salty douchebag., hardly qualified to be God I'm afraid. Besides, that saddle looks like torture gear so I think it also lost the Brony audience with that.''