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Round Two

Poll6119
Saturday, November 22, 2015

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 6119
Division Division 2
Match # 69
Match Date Sunday, November 22, 2015
Oracle
Expectations
Final Fantasy VI - 66.58%
94 for - 0 against
GameFAQs
Prediction
Final Fantasy VI - 65.22%

Round 2 is usually the round where we take out the trash, especially when 1 seeds are involved. Almost every 1 seed wins in round 1, and almost always you see that 1 seed move on to beat the 8/9 winner. There are rare exceptions, but that's how seeded tournaments work. Final Fantasy 6 beating Paper Mario here was a predictable result, and was just filler en route to the hyped FF6 matches. There was a lot of debate over whether Wind Waker could beat FF6, and there was even more debate over a potential FF6/FF7 showdown. You can thank this poll for that: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5728-all-of-the-other-final-fantasy-games-aside-which-is-better

Yes the entire poll only got 22854 votes, but FF7 has been eating hilarious upsets for years in these contests. Why couldn't FF6 take advantage?

And because this PCA has been loaded with me looking things up and providing LISTS™, why not a list of every 8/9 winner that's beaten a 1 seed 1v1? I'm also including 4/5 winners that have beaten 1 seeds when divisions are seeded 1-8.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2108-devil-division-round-2-dante-vs-vincent-valentine
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4552-southwest-division-round-2-phoenix-wright-vs-edgeworth
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6123-best-game-ever-day-19-round-2-super-mario-bros-3-vs-pokemon
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6139-best-game-ever-day-23-round-2-grand-theft-auto-v-vs-super

That's it. 4 times. Two of those were 4/5 > 1 upsets, with the only two actual 8/9 > 1 upsets being from this very contest. Pretty neat how it's almost as rare as a 16 beating a 1 (obligatory LOL Halo), and it's a good testament to how well our brackets are usually set up. Usually!

Ctes' Analysis[]

Obviously this match was never going to be interesting in the slightest. It was all about whether or not Paper Mario II could avoid a doubling, and quite unfortunately it couldn't. This is one of my favorite games, but you gotta set yourself realistic goals for it! Getting to round 2 was the goal, but avoiding a doubling here too would be nice. Anyway, some matches just isn't interesting and this is one of them. There is practically nothing to say, everything went as expected. Plus, tt's not even very useful for determining any of Final Fantasy VI's upcoming matches. It had an easy run so far, the test would begin when it faced Wind Waker in round 3.

Final Fantasy VI looked a little better than Wind Waker today, although it's minimal. TTYD and Knights of the Old Republic should be expected to be roughly equals, showing Final Fantasy VI had the advantage in round 3, but it's difficult to determine for sure. It's interesting to note that TTYD didn't appear to have fallen but just stayed around the same strength while the first Paper Mario ended up looking rather weak. That does not initially make any sense, but there is perhaps an explanation, saved for when Super Mario RPG came out of its division. I hope we continue to see TTYD, it might not be a powerhouse and never will be, but it's strong enough to make some interesting round 1 matches. Its match with Tales of Symphonia was decent enough. Can you imagine a match with KOTOR? I think that one would be really good!

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2015 Contest Matches

Round One
CT > R&C:UYA
DQVIII > P3
MMX > Batman:AC
FFX > HL1
Melee > Portal
Pokemon GSC > TWEWY
KHII > MGS4
TLoU > Halo 3
FFVI > ACII
TTYD > ToS
KotOR > Xenogears
Zelda:WW > Pokemon X/Y
Smash Wii U > Planescape
ME > SMG2
Halo > Minecraft
FFVII > Journey
SMB3 > AoE2
Pokemon RBY > Tetris
Sonic 2 > Portal 2
Uncharted 2 > Walking Dead
Fallout 3 > Life is Strange
Undertale > ME3
FFVIII > GTA:VC
SMW > AC:NL
Skyrim > PW:AA
GE007 > Diablo II
Metroid Prime > Morrowind
HL2 > Demon's Souls
Mario 64 > MK8
FFT > RE2
Zelda:TP > SoA
Persona 4 > 999

Zelda:OoT > Hearthstone
Suikoden II > MH4U
Okami > Warcraft III
FFIX > KH1
DKC2 > Xenoblade
FE:A > Mario Maker
BK > Baldur's Gate II
SotN > PW:T&T
Zelda:LttP > Cave Story
FFIV > Deus Ex
MGSV > Perfect Dark
Dark Souls > Civ V
Super Metroid > CoD4
Mario Galaxy > DA:O
FFXII > Bloodborne
Zelda:MM > Valkyria
GTAV > Shenmue
SMRPG > Oblivion
GTA:SA > Shovel Knight
CC > WoW
Witcher 3 > Isaac: Rebirth
MGS2 > RE
Fallout:NV > BioShock Inf
RE4 > Paper Mario
MGS > Splatoon
EB > Borderlands 2
SotC > TF2
RDR > Bayonetta 2
MGS3 > Mother 3
BioShock > SH2
Starcraft > Destiny
ME2 > VLR

Round Two
CT > DQVIII
FFX > MMX
Melee > Pokemon GSC
KHII > TLoU
FFVI > TTYD
Zelda:WW > KotOR
Smash Wii U > ME
FFVII > Halo
Pokemon RBY > SMB3
Sonic 2 > Uncharted 2
Undertale > Fallout 3
SMW > FFVIII
Skyrim > GE007
Metroid Prime > HL2
Mario 64 > FFT
Zelda:TP > Persona 4
Zelda:OoT > Suikoden II
FFIX > Okami
DKC2 > FE:A
SotN > BK
Zelda:LttP > FFIV
Dark Souls > MGSV
Super Metroid > SMG
Zelda:MM > FFXII
SMRPG > GTAV
CC > GTA:SA
MGS2 > Witcher 3
RE4 > Fallout:NV
MGS > EB
SotC > RDR
MGS3 > Bioshock
ME2 > Starcraft

R3 and following
CT > FFX
Melee > KHII
FFVI > Zelda:WW
FFVII > Smash Wii U
Pokemon RBY > Sonic 2
Undertale > SMW
Skyrim > Metroid Prime
Mario 64 > Zelda:TP
Zelda:OoT > FFIX
SotN > DKC2
Zelda:LttP > Dark Souls
Zelda:MM > Super Metroid
SMRPG > CC
RE4 > MGS2
MGS > SotC
MGS3 > ME2
Melee > CT
FFVII > FFVI
Undertale > Pokemon RBY
Mario 64 > Skyrim
Zelda:OoT > SotN
Zelda:LttP > Zelda:MM
SMRPG > RE4
MGS3 > MGS
Melee > FFVII
Undertale > Mario 64
Zelda:OoT > Zelda:LttP
SMRPG > MGS3
Undertale > Melee
Zelda:OoT > SMRPG
Undertale > Zelda:OoT



Melee > SMRPG

Grudge Matches
CT > FFVI
Pokemon RBY > Mario 64


Zelda:OoT > FFVII

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