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Round TwoPoll6121
  Sunday, November 22, 2015


Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 6121
Division Division 2
Match # 71
Match Date Sunday, November 22, 2015
Oracle
Expectations
Smash Bros. Wii U - 60.05%
92 for - 2 against
GameFAQs
Prediction
Smash Bros. Wii U - 44.48%

Did I go on my huge rant about how good Smash 4 is during my round 1 writeup? I did? Good. Smash 4 is absolutely godlike. I mean yeah the online is a laggy mess, but at least Nintendo bothered trying this time. It's a damn shame Smash 4 is saddled by the Wii U. I'm all for no one caring about the Wii U, don't get me wrong, but Smash 4 is an all-time great game and deserves to have Melee-like strength in contests. The Smash community was clearly ready to go berserk this contest, and I would have fully loved Smash 4 getting all that support. Not that I'm complaining about Melee getting it, but Smash 4 really deserves it as well.

As for a 55-45 victory over Mass Effect, it was a good match for both games. Smash 4 did the usual Smash thing where it rolled the board vote before bleeding percentage. 55-45 is a good win here, but hardly the kind of performance that would scare people into thinking it could beat FF7. For Mass Effect, 45% on Smash 4 after upsetting Galaxy 2 was a solid performance. Can't complain about a respectable loss to an upper tier Nintendo title, and what is easily the strongest game on the Wii U.

It would however lead to Mass Effect 2 being the only remaining game in the series left in this contest, and that game was due for a rather legendary struggle in its own right.

Ctes' Analysis[]

This match was over from the moment it began, but man, it screwed with many users in the oracle challenge. A very well received Smash title was not supposed to allow Mass Effect to get above 45%. Most people guessed Smash 4 to win with about 60% or at least close to. It was not at all close to do that. Of course, this was mostly viewed as a major disappointing performance from Smash and not a surprisingly good performance from Smash. There were little to no talks about Mass Effect being legit, or about Mass Effect 2 looking more likely to create upsets in the bottom division, it was pretty much all Wii U bashing.

Smash 4 itself has pretty much no haters, so most of the trash talk was not directly aimed at the game. The reason for it not nearly being as strong as Brawl was when that was released, despite Brawl getting very mixed reviews, lies not within the game itself, but its circumstances. First and foremost, there's the title. Melee and Brawl are good and catchy titles. For “3DS and Wii U” are a lame cliche of a pun, and it's really uncreative too. There's a reason this game still goes by Smash 4 even after getting an official title. You never hear anyone say Smash 2 or Smash 3 about the others. It's stupid that it's like that, but I actually believe that it drags it down. It also leads me to the next reason for it being weaker than it should be; it's on the Wii U. That's never really a good thing. It's not as bad a console as people make it out to be, you can play with a good controller and there are good games on it, but in general people view it quite negatively. There's also the fact that it's only a year old. Being recent helped only one game this contest and that wasn't Smash 4.

So let's also praise Mass Effect a bit, it did really good today. In retrospect, it makes a lot of sense. Given what we just discussed about Smash 4, something that wouldn't surprise anyone, that Mass Effect is well received, and Shepard doing pretty great in the characters contests, this is not such a weird result. Mass Effect did pretty good in Game of the Decade, but people simply saw a popular Smash game and didn't think twice. When you don't think twice about the match, it usually doesn't have the winning game below 55%. Despite this disappointing performance today, Smash 4 is a Wii U game that just reached round 3 by beating a fairly good opponent. This puts it a bit below Resident Evil 4 in Game of the Decade, the difference this contest being that being a new game sucks more than ever. The Wii U might not have an elite game, but it has a strong one, and when you look at it that way, Smash 4 suddenly doesn't look too bad.

This match also redeems Super Mario Galaxy 2 quite a lot, but almost no one gave that any thought. Mario had a fine contest, but people ignored so many important things regarding the Mario game matches. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is projected to barely beat The Last of Us now. That's pretty darn great for a recent game, even if my example here is also a recent game. This went unnoticed though. After today, Undertale completely stole the spotlight and people forgot about this match. At the same time, Super Mario Bros. 3 became the first #1 seed, continuing to make Mario an easy target.

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2015 Contest Matches

Round One
CT > R&C:UYA
DQVIII > P3
MMX > Batman:AC
FFX > HL1
Melee > Portal
Pokemon GSC > TWEWY
KHII > MGS4
TLoU > Halo 3
FFVI > ACII
TTYD > ToS
KotOR > Xenogears
Zelda:WW > Pokemon X/Y
Smash Wii U > Planescape
ME > SMG2
Halo > Minecraft
FFVII > Journey
SMB3 > AoE2
Pokemon RBY > Tetris
Sonic 2 > Portal 2
Uncharted 2 > Walking Dead
Fallout 3 > Life is Strange
Undertale > ME3
FFVIII > GTA:VC
SMW > AC:NL
Skyrim > PW:AA
GE007 > Diablo II
Metroid Prime > Morrowind
HL2 > Demon's Souls
Mario 64 > MK8
FFT > RE2
Zelda:TP > SoA
Persona 4 > 999

Zelda:OoT > Hearthstone
Suikoden II > MH4U
Okami > Warcraft III
FFIX > KH1
DKC2 > Xenoblade
FE:A > Mario Maker
BK > Baldur's Gate II
SotN > PW:T&T
Zelda:LttP > Cave Story
FFIV > Deus Ex
MGSV > Perfect Dark
Dark Souls > Civ V
Super Metroid > CoD4
Mario Galaxy > DA:O
FFXII > Bloodborne
Zelda:MM > Valkyria
GTAV > Shenmue
SMRPG > Oblivion
GTA:SA > Shovel Knight
CC > WoW
Witcher 3 > Isaac: Rebirth
MGS2 > RE
Fallout:NV > BioShock Inf
RE4 > Paper Mario
MGS > Splatoon
EB > Borderlands 2
SotC > TF2
RDR > Bayonetta 2
MGS3 > Mother 3
BioShock > SH2
Starcraft > Destiny
ME2 > VLR

Round Two
CT > DQVIII
FFX > MMX
Melee > Pokemon GSC
KHII > TLoU
FFVI > TTYD
Zelda:WW > KotOR
Smash Wii U > ME
FFVII > Halo
Pokemon RBY > SMB3
Sonic 2 > Uncharted 2
Undertale > Fallout 3
SMW > FFVIII
Skyrim > GE007
Metroid Prime > HL2
Mario 64 > FFT
Zelda:TP > Persona 4
Zelda:OoT > Suikoden II
FFIX > Okami
DKC2 > FE:A
SotN > BK
Zelda:LttP > FFIV
Dark Souls > MGSV
Super Metroid > SMG
Zelda:MM > FFXII
SMRPG > GTAV
CC > GTA:SA
MGS2 > Witcher 3
RE4 > Fallout:NV
MGS > EB
SotC > RDR
MGS3 > Bioshock
ME2 > Starcraft

R3 and following
CT > FFX
Melee > KHII
FFVI > Zelda:WW
FFVII > Smash Wii U
Pokemon RBY > Sonic 2
Undertale > SMW
Skyrim > Metroid Prime
Mario 64 > Zelda:TP
Zelda:OoT > FFIX
SotN > DKC2
Zelda:LttP > Dark Souls
Zelda:MM > Super Metroid
SMRPG > CC
RE4 > MGS2
MGS > SotC
MGS3 > ME2
Melee > CT
FFVII > FFVI
Undertale > Pokemon RBY
Mario 64 > Skyrim
Zelda:OoT > SotN
Zelda:LttP > Zelda:MM
SMRPG > RE4
MGS3 > MGS
Melee > FFVII
Undertale > Mario 64
Zelda:OoT > Zelda:LttP
SMRPG > MGS3
Undertale > Melee
Zelda:OoT > SMRPG
Undertale > Zelda:OoT



Melee > SMRPG

Grudge Matches
CT > FFVI
Pokemon RBY > Mario 64


Zelda:OoT > FFVII

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