Results[]
Friday, April 10, 2020
Ulti's Analysis[]
| Division | Division 8 |
|---|---|
| Match # | 59 |
| Match Date | Friday, April 10, 2020 |
| Oracle Expectations |
Final Fantasy XIV - 68.28% 59 for - 0 against |
| GameFAQs Prediction |
Final Fantasy XIV - 82.97% |
| User Votes |
Final Fantasy XIV - 6265 Crypt of the NecroDancer - 2452 |
| Anonymous Votes |
Final Fantasy XIV - 5083 Crypt of the NecroDancer - 2108 |
The only game in this entire bracket I hate more than Final Fantasy 14 is Hearthstone. Don't worry, we'll get to the latter in a bit.
I mentioned this in the stats topic, which prompted Team Rocket Elite to ask for my bottom 10 games since I tend to call a lot of things the worst game ever made. Good idea, TRE! I thusly present Ulti's Shit List:
1 - Hearthstone - The worst game ever made by far.
2 - Warcraft 3 - The worst game ever made until Hearthstone came along.
3 - Devil May Cry 2 and DmC: Devil May Cry - Going Chris Berman on this one. I covered both of these in the DMC5 vs Tropical Freeze writeup.
4 - Lunar Dragon Song - It's a JRPG where you can't choose attacks, you have to choose between EXP and money, and there is an actual plot point called "The Curse of Lost Equilibrium". The main character is a postal worker who attacks enemies (which you can't choose) by doing gymnastics and kicking with sandals. When he loses his equilibrium, he can't stand on his head anymore and it causes a bunch of problems. I swear this entire paragraph is the truth.
5 - Mighty No. 9 - The main example for why Kickstarter is trash.
6 - Knights in the Nightmare - A strategy RPG that wants to be a bullet hell, and you can't choose the directions your characters face on the grid. It is so hilariously stupid, and might have the worst tutorial in all of gaming.
7 - Shadow of the Colossus - I've covered this one at length.
8 - Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks - They might as well be one giant game anyway. Covered at length in reviews, no need to rehash it.
9 - Every MMORPG ever made, and yes this includes Final Fantasy 14 and I don't care what the honks say to try defending it. I've lost so many friends over the years to this stupid gaming genre that I will never, ever play any of the games or defend them. These games can all go and choke. I hate them.
10 - Every Mario Kart game ever made, for popularizing the ever-moronic gameplay mechanic of punishing skilled players. Mario Kart didn't invent this mechanic, but they're certainly the most popular and egregious about it.
It will take a true standard of shittiness never before seen to crack that list. Trash like Dream Drop Distance, Super Princess Peach, the Dissidias. Resident Evils 0, 5, and 6, The World Ends With You, and plenty of other bad games are all garbage cans, but they have a saving grace here and there that prevent them from making the list. Games known for being bad (Superman 64, Crazy Bus, ET, Hydlide, et al) have an entertainment value due to their status.
"Ulti, you cannot honestly think Crazy Bus is a better game than Final Fantasy 14 or Shadow of the Colossus. Stop trolling."
I got more entertainment value from it than any game on my shit list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzt_uoTVAcE
No one will ever convince me a single game on my shit list has entertainment value. You also have absolutely no idea how much I love the Warcraft 3 Reforged metacritic user score. It vindicated nearly 20 years of hatred and proved me right all along. All I ever need is a long enough time line.
So yeah, it sucks ass that Final Fantasy 14 got to score a free blowout against some indie rhythm garbage. Untitled Goose Game or Goat Simulator couldn't make the bracket for fear of an ironic rally, but Final Fantasy 14 gets to waste a slot. Amazing.
Ctes's Analysis[]
Final Fantasy XIV has somehow managed to be the most well-liked Final Fantasy this past decade. Not necessarily the strongest, but certainly the one with the least things going against it. That’s pretty crazy considering what it is. Although it’s also something that it achieved down the line. It wasn’t as good at first. It also got an interesting bracket placement where it had a possibility of making round 3. It looked good today as well, which made the next round a bit more exciting. Generally, the winner of the next match was believed to advance twice, but FFXIV had a outside shot.
Of course, Crypt of the NecroDancer was never something to expect very much of. We’ve learned already at this point that there is no such thing as general indie boost. Some indie games are just legit now, and this one is not really from the time you’d prefer to be. Furthermore, it’s a rhythm game and that’s probably not something you want to be. We had Guitar Hero and Rock Band in the previous Game of the Decade, which is fair enough, they had their time in the spotlight, but they underperformed. You should respect nothing of such games and little of indies.
Final Fantasy XIV probably does good here on the forced voting stuff. You see the name Final Fantasy there and it gets your vote for recognition. That matters against games that are hardly known. I wonder if the name alone cements it as what is the strongest MMORPG now, which isn’t exactly a big title here, but still a title.
Safer777's Analysis[]
So we have a MMORPG! But not a random one, a FF one. When FF 14 first came out it was SO bad. Like really bad. So bad that basically SE offerend an apology, disbanded the team that made it and started working on it again. After some time they came out with Real Reborn and killed the original FF 14 in real life and in lore too! Yeah that world got destroyed in story too! But then something happened. RR was amazing! Seriously they did such good job that everyone was surprised. So even though we have the original version of FF 14 coming out 10 years ago and RR coming out 7 years ago the game is played by thousands upon thousands of players and new stuff keep coming out on regular intervals. Yeah they managed to make one of the worst lauched MMORPG into one of the best MMORPG's ever! Damn! As for Crypt it is something of a rhythm based game. I don't know how it works exactly but I do know it has amazing music plus it has to be popular because last year a Zelda spin off came out that uses the mechanics of Crypt! Yeah and it was really good and nobody really expecting that!
So for the match. Well FF14 has FF in its name and is against an indie game so of course it would won. And it did good I do believe. I don't think anything can be said. I am just happy that we do have a MMORPG going on Round 2.
Tsunami's Analysis[]
This was one of those matches that I barely even considered debatable when making my bracket and it turned out it wasn't debatable, but in the other direction. I mean, let's look at the facts here: this site has never been big on MMOs, as evidenced by the way WoW constantly gets embarrassed, frequently losing as the favorite and failing to win convincingly even when it does win. Again: only entrant, game or character, to win with less than 60% with over 90% bracket support. And this site hates most of Square's recent output, so even if this were a regular Final Fantasy and not an MMO, it wouldn't be that strong, though it'd still be strong enough to win. And most importantly, Nintendo has been famously reticent to allow anyone else access to their IPs, ever since the Philips CD-i debacle. Even though Cadence of Hyrule isn't the game in this poll, its mere existence is a vote of confidence from people whose opinions matter a lot to GameFAQs.
Turns out, FFXIV is actually really well respected now. That "A Realm Reborn" in the title isn't merely a fancy subtitle; it's to differentiate it from the original release of FFXIV, which was such a disaster that Square basically scrapped the whole thing and then went meta with the rerelease, setting it in a post-apocalyptic world that's basically the same cataclysm that they dropped on the original release's world when they killed it off. People love it, especially because it finally gave WoW some much-needed competition.
So after being informed that I'd horribly misjudged two matches in the same day again, I went into the Oracle topic, came up with what I thought was a good percentage for FFXIV > FGO, then went back before posting because I'd already forgotten what the other game that I'd wrongly had losing was...and realized, oops, FFXIV was facing Crypt of the NecroDancer! So I had to redo it, and it was killing me because I still believed that if the opponents were reversed, I'd only have to change one outcome; that Crypt of the NecroDancer could still win.
After this? I no longer think Crypt of the NecroDancer could beat Journey. Unless FFXIV is just that beastly, getting only 28.47% is just not a good performance, and I really overestimated the psychological effect of "Nintendo let these guys make a game with one of their most valuable IPs".
The actual Cadence of Hyrule probably would've been stronger. Too bad it's a 2019 game or else we could find out in ten years.