Results[]
Saturday, April 11, 2020
Ulti's Analysis[]
Division | Division 8 |
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Match # | 63 |
Match Date | Saturday, April 11, 2020 |
Oracle Expectations |
Divinity: Original Sin II - 64.98% 54 for - 5 against |
GameFAQs Prediction |
Divinity: Original Sin II - 58.63% |
User Votes |
Divinity: Original Sin II - 5971 Hearthstone - 2636 |
Anonymous Votes |
Divinity: Original Sin II - 4887 Hearthstone - 2214 |
I'm not going to lie. I was low key worried Hearthstone might win this match because of this poll: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5748-best-of-2014-pc
In that poll, the original Divinity only beat Hearthstone by 350 votes despite Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft both having representation in that poll. I thought a straight 1v1 match with all the side stuff removed could give Hearthstone a chance, regardless of what the stats say in 2015.
Thankfully, Divinity saved this contest and all of our lives by having none of it. I don't know what these Divinity games even are, but I bought Original Sin 2 and I will love every second of it on general principle. The reason for this is because Hearthstone is, with no debate whatsoever, the worst game ever made under any medium. Ever. It's so bad that there is practically no second place.
If you want an esoteric analysis of Blizzard themselves, it's all right here: https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/(14)D.Va_vs_(11)Fox_McCloud_2018
No need to go on another rant to rehash it all, and Blizzard screws up so routinely that I've been able to update that page every month with new information. You want Blitzchung, Warcraft 3 Reforged, and the entire Hong Kong debacle? It's all in there. Among much, much more.
I'll stick to Hearthstone alone in this one, and I noticed that a lot of people don't know what Hearthstone is or why people hate it so much. Allow me to explain. Hearthstone pretends to be a card game. You get a mana crystal each turn, and you use that mana to play cards. Some cards are minions. Some are spells. You play cards, bash minions into each other, and eventually one hero's life goes to zero. That's how the game is advertised.
What Hearthstone actually is is the very essence of what's discussed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
It's the very essence of U.S. Patent #9,789,406: https://kotaku.com/activision-patents-matchmaking-that-encourages-players-1819630937
Hearthstone is in no way a video game, because all player skill is removed from ever factoring into any result. The only thing that ever affects any result in Hearthstone is RNG, and that is manipulated to encourage microtransactions and addictive player behavior. No decision you make ever matters in what happens on screen. No result is ever honest. It's a card game with every single skill option removed. All matchups are random, all draws are random, most of the targeting is random, a lot of the damage is random, the card generation effects are random, the discovery is random, and all results are random. All of it. That, by itself, makes it the worst game ever made, because in every other game ever made, actions taken by the player has some effect on the result. Not in Hearthstone. Every game plays out like those European board games where players are playing against the game itself, not against each other, and at any point the game can just tell anyone "you lose". The fact that anyone on this planet defends this garbage is beyond me, but they exist.
On top of that, it's a card game that pretends to be competitive while offering zero skill options. There are no sideboards, no rematches, no card bans, no class ladder bans, no tournaments, nothing. Just RNG and nothing else. Every other game ever made is better than this on that fact alone, and there is no defending it. If you across someone who thinks player skill is in any way relevant in Hearthstone, you are dealing with a complete and total idiot. I would rather spend time with anyone else over someone who thinks Hearthstone is skill-based, because the game is factually not skill-based. Period.
"But Ulti!" a defender of this trash will exclaim, "At the highest level every decision matters and blah blah reeeeeeeeeeee!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gtd6WQ4eQ&t=5750s
Fuck off. Hearthstone is not skill-based and it's specifically designed not to be. End of story. Go away.
Original Sin 2 is in the mail en route to my route as I type this all up. I for one cannot wait for it to get here. I will play it, I will love it, and I will cherish it for preventing the worst game ever made under any medium from winning a contest match.
Ctes's Analysis[]
This was another one of the matches where it was discussed whether that the winner might be the weakest game to make round 2, although the winner was never really in doubt. Heartstone was in the 2015 contest and finished dead last in the x-stats after managing to get no more than 8.97% against Ocarina of Time, which is not exactly the game to receive the least number of anti-votes. Hearthstone is just that bad. It’s not our type of game and we don’t like Blizzard much anymore. We expected it to do very bad today.
Divinity: Original Sin II was also a game we had just about no expectations for. It’s a PC game first and foremost, which is a bad thing here. It also focused a lot on its multiplayer experience, which likewise isn’t what you want to be here. Hearthstone reappeared after finishing dead last and yet we didn’t believe Divinity could pull off the doubling on average. That says a lot about how little we thought of it.
Hearthstone would end up still being the worst of anything that appeared in the 2015 bracket, but it didn’t quite end up on the bottom this time, which makes sense, it’s a much weaker field. It’s seemingly casual bait to some extent judging from the prediction percentage. They both were a little better than expected, but mostly Divinity. It didn’t really change anything, because the winner today was clear and Divinity was never going to beat Automata.
Safer777's Analysis[]
Here we have DOS 2 which is maybe the best RPG that came out in the last 10 years. It is turn based and there are many customizations options, dialogue choices, combo moves, loot, so many stuff to do that seriously you can do anything. You hear that in many games but DOS 2 really does that. I do believe it is the only game that you can trully kill everyone on the map and still complete it. Sure you will lose most of the quests but the option is there. Just buy it if you like RPG's especially turn based ones. You can even change difficulty on the fly if you have problems plus there is a Magic Mirror on your base that you can change EVERYTHING for your characters except genders. So no problems if you think you made a wrong build or something. Money is somewhat tough to find but you can steal from everyone with a dedicated thief build. Which you can change any time anyways! Plus we got the the Definite Edition which adds even more stuff and it is all for all consoles so you don't have any excuse to not play it. On the other hand we have Hearthstone which is a card game. Card games are slightly liked better than gatcha games on this site so there. HS had been in the previous game contest which got owned easily so I guess almost every game could beat it here.
So for the match. Well DOS 2 won easily. And it did really good. As I said we don't really play games like DOS 2 here which is a shame. Also forgot to mention something DOS 2 is an indie game! Okay mostly. The first game got made via Kickstarter. And also you do know how many microtransactions does DOS 2 has? Zero. Strange how the big companies say that the current model of making full games and selling them is unsustainable which a few years ago it was, you know, the NORMAL thing to do? But not anymore. Yeah money is good but make a good game at least first? Still nice win for DOS 2. The correct prediction percentage was kinda low too. I guess people went with the game that they have heard about? I had played Hearstone for a while too and to tell the truth to do good you have to buy cards with real money. Sure someone may say that you don't need to do that, BUT you have to play like the whole thing to get resources to get cards for free. Who has so much time for that to play a free card game? So yeah people just buy the cards. Gatcha game it is, so it does makes sense.
Tsunami's Analysis[]
Hearthstone was easily the weakest game in the X-Stats in 2015, certainly unadjusted and probably adjusted too. (The unadjusted X-Stats are mostly worthless because Undertale scored its largest blowout in the final against OoT. I feel like that definitely says something about Undertale, given that Link very nearly managed to stop Draven anyway, but I'm not sure what. But they can still be useful for comparing games that were on the same sides of the bracket.) Divinity was therefore expected to win easily, and it did just that. Some people were a bit surprised at how easily it did so, however, given its weak showing in the only other poll it had been in, but we all know that non-contest PotD results, even from GotY, are often suspect when used to predict contest matches. Nevertheless, this was the match where it was theorized that 2017 had actually been a stealth monster of a year and that there had been a number of games, Divinity: Original Sin II among them, that had flown under the radar because their only prior appearance in a poll was a poor showing in that year's GotY. People started talking about how 2017 would've done in the Years Contest. The thing is, it probably still wouldn't have done that well. There was a running joke about "just pick the closest year to 1998", except it wasn't a joke at all; if you actually made your bracket that way and picked correctly on all the "coin flips", you'd have a grand total of two wrong picks, though one of them would have been on a semifinal match so you'd still be far from perfect.