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Round TwoPoll6130
Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 6130
Division Division 4
Match # 80
Match Date Tuesday, November 24, 2015
Oracle
Expectations
Zelda: Twilight Princess - 65.02%
88 for - 2 against
GameFAQs
Prediction
Zelda: Twilight Princess - 57.29%

Not all doublings are created equal, and though this match's winner was very predictable, Persona 4 was only expected to get 27% on Twilight Princess based on Game of the Decade. It obviously went out and did much better than that, and though it didn't come close to justifying its 2 seed, it at least went out there and didn't thoroughly embarrass itself. The constant overseeding of Persona games does prove its vocal minority fanbase, however, though at least Zelda did us the favor of getting rid of those people.

It's going to be funny when Persona 4 becomes only the second 1 seed to lose to a 16 in round 1. (1)Persona 4 vs (16)Portal or (1)Persona 4 vs (16)Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door are a lot more realistic than one might think. In this contest alone, we saw Phoenix Wright get a 16 seed and finish in the top half of the stats.

Or let's just go full circle. (1)Persona 4 vs (16)Halo: Combat Evolved. You would laugh until the end of time if Halo won that match. Don't even lie.

Ctes' Analysis[]

A #2 seed really isn't supposed in to be almost doubled in round 2, even if it did run into a Zelda game. That said, this isn't a bad showing from a Persona game. It's a small niche franchise, but the fourth game is legit in these things and is the only one that might not be niche. It's also the only one that we should see again of the ones currently released at least. Avoiding the doubling here was probably the fair goal, and it wasn't that close to it. Persona 4 received its great seeding because it has a very dedicated fanbase that will always support it, unlike something like RBY, which is loved by many, but it doesn't have the same dedicated group. It took niche fanbases to get stuff like 999 in this, but Persona 4, already being a decent entry, claimed a #2 seed with it. This also pretty much confirms that Persona 4 will continue to appear in these contests, and honestly, I fear the third one might very well too.

After the previous round there were a few people believing Persona 4 could get close this match. It scored one of the highest percentages of the first round. Now, considering that Persona 4 didn't even come remotely close here, that leaves 999 as a huge contender for the absolute weakest game of the contest. As for Twilight Princess, it's a strong game, but quite unfortunately it ran into Super Mario 64 in round 3, which was an outside contender for the finalist before Undertale rallies happened. At some point during this day, Heroic Mario said he believed that Twilight Princess would beat Super Mario 64, because what game would totally beat Final Fantasy Tactics? Well, I don't really doubt a single bit that Persona 4 would not. That match up seems really easy. Like, think of Dragon Quest VIII vs. Persona 3, but here it's just strong games. Plus, it'll probably be less close. Twilight Princess might be able to do wonder in Wind Waker's spot, but not here.

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2015 Contest Matches

Round One
CT > R&C:UYA
DQVIII > P3
MMX > Batman:AC
FFX > HL1
Melee > Portal
Pokemon GSC > TWEWY
KHII > MGS4
TLoU > Halo 3
FFVI > ACII
TTYD > ToS
KotOR > Xenogears
Zelda:WW > Pokemon X/Y
Smash Wii U > Planescape
ME > SMG2
Halo > Minecraft
FFVII > Journey
SMB3 > AoE2
Pokemon RBY > Tetris
Sonic 2 > Portal 2
Uncharted 2 > Walking Dead
Fallout 3 > Life is Strange
Undertale > ME3
FFVIII > GTA:VC
SMW > AC:NL
Skyrim > PW:AA
GE007 > Diablo II
Metroid Prime > Morrowind
HL2 > Demon's Souls
Mario 64 > MK8
FFT > RE2
Zelda:TP > SoA
Persona 4 > 999

Zelda:OoT > Hearthstone
Suikoden II > MH4U
Okami > Warcraft III
FFIX > KH1
DKC2 > Xenoblade
FE:A > Mario Maker
BK > Baldur's Gate II
SotN > PW:T&T
Zelda:LttP > Cave Story
FFIV > Deus Ex
MGSV > Perfect Dark
Dark Souls > Civ V
Super Metroid > CoD4
Mario Galaxy > DA:O
FFXII > Bloodborne
Zelda:MM > Valkyria
GTAV > Shenmue
SMRPG > Oblivion
GTA:SA > Shovel Knight
CC > WoW
Witcher 3 > Isaac: Rebirth
MGS2 > RE
Fallout:NV > BioShock Inf
RE4 > Paper Mario
MGS > Splatoon
EB > Borderlands 2
SotC > TF2
RDR > Bayonetta 2
MGS3 > Mother 3
BioShock > SH2
Starcraft > Destiny
ME2 > VLR

Round Two
CT > DQVIII
FFX > MMX
Melee > Pokemon GSC
KHII > TLoU
FFVI > TTYD
Zelda:WW > KotOR
Smash Wii U > ME
FFVII > Halo
Pokemon RBY > SMB3
Sonic 2 > Uncharted 2
Undertale > Fallout 3
SMW > FFVIII
Skyrim > GE007
Metroid Prime > HL2
Mario 64 > FFT
Zelda:TP > Persona 4
Zelda:OoT > Suikoden II
FFIX > Okami
DKC2 > FE:A
SotN > BK
Zelda:LttP > FFIV
Dark Souls > MGSV
Super Metroid > SMG
Zelda:MM > FFXII
SMRPG > GTAV
CC > GTA:SA
MGS2 > Witcher 3
RE4 > Fallout:NV
MGS > EB
SotC > RDR
MGS3 > Bioshock
ME2 > Starcraft

R3 and following
CT > FFX
Melee > KHII
FFVI > Zelda:WW
FFVII > Smash Wii U
Pokemon RBY > Sonic 2
Undertale > SMW
Skyrim > Metroid Prime
Mario 64 > Zelda:TP
Zelda:OoT > FFIX
SotN > DKC2
Zelda:LttP > Dark Souls
Zelda:MM > Super Metroid
SMRPG > CC
RE4 > MGS2
MGS > SotC
MGS3 > ME2
Melee > CT
FFVII > FFVI
Undertale > Pokemon RBY
Mario 64 > Skyrim
Zelda:OoT > SotN
Zelda:LttP > Zelda:MM
SMRPG > RE4
MGS3 > MGS
Melee > FFVII
Undertale > Mario 64
Zelda:OoT > Zelda:LttP
SMRPG > MGS3
Undertale > Melee
Zelda:OoT > SMRPG
Undertale > Zelda:OoT



Melee > SMRPG

Grudge Matches
CT > FFVI
Pokemon RBY > Mario 64


Zelda:OoT > FFVII

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