Results[]
Monday, April 6, 2020
Ulti's Analysis[]
| Division | Division 6 |
|---|---|
| Match # | 42 |
| Match Date | Monday, April 06, 2020 |
| Oracle Expectations |
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 53.93% 41 for - 16 against |
| GameFAQs Prediction |
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 64.34% |
| User Votes |
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 5006 Sid Meier's Civilization V - 3804 |
| Anonymous Votes |
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 4030 Sid Meier's Civilization V - 3233 |
I half wonder if Allen got the two Assassin's Creed games backwards by accident when making this bracket, because Odyssey is in no way 16 seed material. Black Flag is. How in the world did Black Flag even make this contest, let alone as an 8 seed, eight lines above Odyssey? No one, not even the biggest Assassin's Creed series fans, likes Black Flag.
It goes to show how little this site cares about the Civilization series, because you have to be megatrash to lose to Black Flag on GameFAQs. Civ 5 might have won this match if it was multi-platform and the seeding was reversed, but that's not the timeline we live in right now. This was a typical dat top option 8 vs 9 fodder duel. We get those now and again, and this contest was no exception. Congrats on winning a ticket to getting destroyed by Persona 5, I guess.
I have nothing else to say about this match, so here's a list of DAT TOP OPTION fodder vs fodder 8/9 matches.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/949-east-division-round-1-ryo-hazuki-vs-guybrush-threepwood
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1735-midgar-division-round-1-vyse-vs-laharl
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3755-heart-division-round-1-laharl-vs-neku-sakuraba
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4118-west-division-round-1-marvel-vs-capcom-2-vs-new-super-mario
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6084-best-game-ever-day-9-suikoden-ii-vs-monster-hunter-4u
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7956-division-6-round-1-assassins-creed-black-flag-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7964-division-7-round-1-rocket-league-vs-dragon-ball-fighterz
Yes, Laharl is on this list twice in both a win and a loss. This is the dumb stuff one looks up during matches Assassin's Creed wins.
Small correction: Board 8 users were kind enough to inform me that people actually do, in fact, love Black Flag. I just got unlucky with the people I interact with, I guess!
Ctes's Analysis[]
On paper, this really seemed like a big match of which of these things we don’t care about, do we care about the least. Civilization V is nothing like what we usually enjoy here, but no one has anything against it either, similar to Age of Empires, although Civilization is probably bigger than that. We know what it is but put it against something we care about and it rolls over. Black Flag is a by genre a lot more something that we enjoy, but there are definitely people with something against it.
Civilization was also close to getting a victory in the previous Game of the Decade contest, losing just barely to Persona 3, which was pretty bad. The fifth one is generally regarded as being the best one from what I can observe, so it could be a bit better than that. Assassin’s Creed IV is untested, but Assassin’s Creed as a franchise used to be good enough but is pretty terrible today. A few days prior to this match, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey rolled over and died. Black Flag is generally preferred among the fanbase of the two however, so it might still have what it takes to beat a Civilization game.
The match was about as uninteresting a one can get with percentages like those. It was over almost right away. Black Flag clearly had board vote, but after that it stabilized, and the percentages were quite consistent for the reminder of the match. It appears we cared slightly more about Assassin’s Creed in the end, but I don’t think that’s really what made the difference. The prediction percentage shows that Assassin’s Creed was favored by almost two thirds of bracket. That’s probably for being the bigger name or maybe for being the higher seed, even though it’s close. If Civilization had that prediction percentage, there’s a chance the result flips, at least it gets a lot closer.
The match does show Assassin’s Creed isn’t as anti-voted as something like Dota 2, Fortnite or Call of Duty. It can still get the majority of the voters in some matches. I wonder if Odyssey would also win this just by having the Assassin’s Creed name. It probably still does, even if it’s a little closer. We don’t have that many hardcore Assassin’s Creed fans these days, what the fanbase favorite is probably means very little. I would’ve liked for Civilization to actually get the victory, it has never had, but this was probably its best chance ever. Maybe next Game of the Decade if they make another good one and it gets the right opponent. A little fun fact to round off the match. My girlfriend’s father is cited in Civilization for something he first said about thirty years ago. He’s not someone you know and can easily look up, so it just appears like a random name in the game.
Safer777's Analysis[]
So AC 4 is considered the best of the old AC games, before Ubisoft soft rebooted the series. As a fan of the AC series that have played all games I can see why. It made pirates damn cool and the whole ship combat mechanic was expanded so much from AC 3 that almost all AC games have it and it is super fun to defeat all other ships and collect loot and upgrades. Serious fun here. As for the CIV series CIV 4 is actually my most played game of all time. Yeah for real. I still play it occassionaly because the fans have made so many mods that I have lost count. Amazing game. But I haven't even touched CIV 5 and CIV 6. Okay I played a bit of CIV 5 but I just can't get into it because when you have played CIV 4 for thousand of hours you can't just change. However the CIV series is considered the best turn based strategy series too. And yeah all games are amazing even though I play only 1 of them. But man the CIV games are damn weak here.
So for the match. Even though there was some fear that AC would lose, I never thought of that. Sure the series sucks now on this site but the CIV games are extremely weak here. We saw that ACO got demolished by Witcher 3 but Witcher 3 can even reach the final match. It is a damn strong game. AC series was popular on this site back then on the AC 2 era and its direct sequels but after that we abandoned it. Still at least it got a win which is more that I can say for a lot of franchises here.
Tsunami's Analysis[]
We were just two days removed from seeing Assassin's Creed Odyssey get quintupled by Witcher 3, and the original Assassin's Creed had needed the vote-ins just to make the first GotD while Assassin's Creed II was the series' lone representative in 2015 and it was a 16-seed. All indications were that the series was toast. And yet, we still believed in it here, for the simple reason that Civilization has always been absolute garbage here. Civ V itself had appeared in 2015 and got doubled by Dark Souls in round 1; Civ IV made it into the first GotD and lost a close match with Persona 3 where it was actually favored roughly 57-43 by both Gurus and casuals; the series as a whole managed to just narrowly clear 10% in the opening match of the 2006 series contest against The Legend of Zelda; and in the series' lone failure to come in dead last in a contest poll, the first game in the series beat out Castlevania III for third place by almost 1000 votes while still coming nearly 28000 votes shy of second place Street Fighter II (which was itself nearly 10000 votes out of first) in a first-round match in 2009. The Persona 3-Civ IV match might've been sticking in Gurus' heads, because honestly, neither 47.65% on P3 nor 33.3% on Dark Souls feel like awful results. But the fact that it lost as a favorite, even though with hindsight it doesn't feel like it should have been a favorite, leaves you with a "won't get fooled again" mentality. This is exactly why Kefka's been burning us over and over with his nonsensical newfound strength. But with AC also declining, this was far from consensus; over 25% of Gurus had Civ V, and about 28% of Oracle predictions were for it. The casuals were similarly conflicted but clearly leaning in the correct direction; 63.47% of brackets had this right, which feels about right for a match that had a clear favorite but was somewhat debatable.