Results[]
Friday, April 10, 2020
Ulti's Analysis[]
| Division | Division 8 |
|---|---|
| Match # | 58 |
| Match Date | Friday, April 10, 2020 |
| Oracle Expectations |
Journey - 62.88% 60 for - 0 against |
| GameFAQs Prediction |
Journey - 62.83% |
| User Votes |
Fate / Grand Order - 2972 Journey - 5744 |
| Anonymous Votes |
Fate / Grand Order - 2379 Journey - 4812 |
I had no idea what Grand Order was before this contest, but Gravy will periodically jokingly ask me to buy these little figurines from it for him. Normally I would consider it, but Grand Order making this contest was the first time I heard the term "gacha game". I legitimately had no clue what in the world that was before this contest, but thankfully we have Wikipedia.
Gacha games are video games that implement the gacha (capsule-toy vending machine) mechanic. It is similar to loot box, in that it induces players to spend in-game currency to receive a random virtual item. Most of these games are free-to-play mobile games, where the gacha serves as an incentive to spend real-world money.
The gacha game model began to be widely used in the early 2010s, faring particularly well in Japan. Almost all of the highest-grossing mobile games in Japan use it, and it has become an integral part of Japanese mobile game culture. Outside Japan, the game mechanism is also gaining popularity and is included in various Chinese and Korean games.
Oh, so Journey took out the trash. Good to know. Nice to see it get a win after getting fed to Final Fantasy 7 five years ago, too. A lot of people expected me to dislike Journey based on my hatred of Shadow of the Colossus, but I legitimately adore that game and everything it was trying to do. I still replay it now and again, since it's legitimately only like an hour long. Video games can, in fact, be artwork. I'll even go full pretentious and quote myself! From the FF7/Journey writeup:
People will assume I hate Journey because of my opinion on Shadow of the Colossus, but no. Journey is actually an outstanding game. It deserved better than getting fed to FF7 in round 1, and it's everything Shadow of the Colossus wishes it could be -- simple, artistic, and extremely touching. The whole game is about 45 minutes long with no spoken dialogue at all, but has such an amazing message of friendship in it. Actually I suppose it could mean whatever you want, but I enjoy the friendship route.
Play Journey if you haven't.
Ctes's Analysis[]
This match was expected by many to give us the weakest game in round 2, which would end up providing Skyrim with yet another target on its cover before it proved to be wrong. Journey got rolled over by Final Fantasy VII in 2015, a game that most of us knows get a fair share of votes against it for always winning. It finished up near the very bottom of the x-stats and no one was really surprised. It’s a pretty game, and while it has gotten its prestige here and there on the internet, we’re not the place to get it from. We had no expectations for it, and rightfully so.
Then there’s Fate / Grand Order, which has just about no business getting a seed that high. People know what it is because the anime series is pretty big but being the only mobile game in the bracket probably says a lot about how much we think of those. I’ve said before that Pokemon GO should’ve been in the contest. I stand by that, but not because I think it would’ve been worth anything. A few people picked Fate / Zero, but I’d expect that to be lack of faith in Journey more than anything. As I said, many people expected this match to give is the weakest game in round 2, even if a few other matches were brought up as well.
Journey did better than the average oracle expected of it and no one picked against it there. We still expected Fate / Zero to among the worst games in the bracket and it’s weird how it ends up avoiding bottom 20 here. Perhaps the name helped. I’m thinking it’s a game enough people have tried out to prevent it from being destroyed so it has a possible larger playrate than the other bottom games. It drew a game we have previously shown to not cared about, which is perfect for taking advantage of such a playrate. It was also the top option in the bracket. Flip the seeds and Journey certainly scores a higher prediction percentage. On top of getting a good draw itself, Journey is probably also a bad draw for Skyrim being as different from it as it is. Skyrim has its anti-votes, but still ended up getting the job done for many rounds. That probably helped Fate / Zero escape the bottom. I think it could’ve easily gotten there elsewhere.
Safer777's Analysis[]
So we have our first gatcha game here! I don't understand how it got such a high seed here and we don't have other gatcha games like Pokemon Go or Dokkan Battle. I think though that F/G has a lot of Waifus so that is maybe it? But then again I always see F/G to be on the top of the Ios board so I guess it has to be popular. I do play some gatcha games like everyone else(if someone says he doesn't play or played at least 1 they are liars). I know they are the cancer of gaming since now every game and their gatcha grandmother has microtransactions but the fault is the people that buy them, not the companies that put them in. Journey is an indie game BUT when it came out it prooved that yeah even Indie games can win GOTY! Yeah it won some GOTY even though it is a walking simulator basically. But hey the art direction and the style were really good so that is.
So for the match. We all knew that Journey would win. Sure nobody talked about Journey after the year that came out but F/G is a gatcha game so no way we would let such a game win a match. So even though Journey is really weak it won with a doubling. Even casuals got this match right even though the seeding was higher for F/G. Nice?
Tsunami's Analysis[]
Journey was piss-weak in 2015, so I figured the Fate name had enough clout to pull this one off. Then the Crew reminded me that even the people who play gacha games hate them, possibly even more so, because they make their money by making all the good stuff really hard to get. (It's true, too; half the time it feels like a chore doing my daily quests in the gacha games I play--which FGO isn't one of them. Sadly, the only one I truly enjoyed closed its international servers in 2016.) My Oracle still turned out pretty bad, though, because I still didn't have enough faith in Journey to not be awful too! And the apathy votes should've still leaned towards FGO because, again, recognizable name. It could very well fare better with people who haven't heard of it and don't know it's a gacha game than those who have!
Also, in a contest full of blowouts, Journey failed to double a gacha game. On GameFAQs, which hates mobile games and other "casualbait" (even though FGO is less casualbait and more otakubait.)