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Round ThreePoll6159
Saturday, December 5, 2015

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 6159
Division Division 7
Match # 109
Match Date Saturday, December 5, 2015
Oracle
Expectations
Super Mario RPG - 56.35%
74 for - 2 against
GameFAQs
Prediction
Super Mario RPG - 14.06%

Mario RPG was never going to lose this match regardless of whether it was against Chrono Cross, World of Warcraft, or San Andreas. The only thing here that would be entertaining would be Mario RPG's percentage bleed overnight, and every time it happens I wonder how strong the game would be were it ever released in Europe.

For this match, the percentage bleed actually wasn't all that bad. Mario RPG peaked at around 64%, then fell below 60% before finishing at 61%. That's rather consistent given the game in question here, and on the flip side it's a pretty impressive result for Chrono Cross. 39.26% on Mario RPG when the game would eventually make the semifinal is pretty good. Don't forget that Chrono Cross got 32.9% on eventual contest winner Majora's Mask during Game of the Decade.

I replayed Chrono Cross not too long ago, and while a ton of that game is a jumbled mess, it does deserve a lot of the respect it gets. I think the biggest problem it has isn't only people comparing it to Chrono Trigger, even though that's a fair comparison to make. It's that all of the characters in Chrono Cross absolutely fucking suck, and there are way too many of them. And I don't just mean the playable characters, either. ALL of the characters suck. Every single one of them. There are no good characters in Crono Cross. That's not a good thing given how attached people got to the cast of Chrono Trigger.

But that aside, the game does almost everything else well. Almost. Here's a rather accurate review for it, if you're interested. It's long, but it's definitely worth a read if you're as fan of the game: http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=cross

Ctes' Analysis[]

This match was pretty obvious all things considered, but Super Mario RPG managed to exceed out expectations quite a bit in a progress. I guess we did have a few people believing in Chrono Cross, because its scores the previous two rounds would've put it quite a bit above Super Mario RPG. It's just that it was really obvious how World of Warcraft and the Grand Theft Auto franchise had fallen. Chrono Cross had just the right bracket placement to make a great run, but despite probably being a bit less hated today, the game is still not very strong. You would think it had gained some momentum beating the games it did, but it's probably nothing compared to the momentum Super Mario RPG got from easily beating the #1 seed. Look at the prediction percentage. Nobody outside of board 8 really expected Super Mario RPG to get to the division finals. It was our favorite, but I'm sure almost every casual had Grand Theft Auto V getting there.

I suppose this confirms Grand Theft Auto V is the strongest game from that franchise. It did better on Super Mario RPG than the game that beat San Andreas. However, I'm willing to believe anti-votes make the gap seem bigger than it is. I might pick Chrono Cross against Grand Theft Auto V after this. That franchise has enough anti-votes for me to believe it. It would likely be a good match though. Chrono Cross disappointed a bit today, but overall had a very great run. Besides, I think most of the focus today was praising Super Mario RPG. Close to nobody expected this, but people were starting to consider Super Mario RPG's chances of pulling the upset next round, not that Resident Evil 4 had looked pretty bad. I don't think many considered it likely, especially due to the Paper Mario match in round 1, but no one considered it impossible anymore. It was also likely enough that Super Mario RPG just had opponents with enough anti-votes to make it look really good. There might be a hierarchy for that thing, but Chrono Cross is surely still a victim of that, it will always be.

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2015 Contest Matches

Round One
CT > R&C:UYA
DQVIII > P3
MMX > Batman:AC
FFX > HL1
Melee > Portal
Pokemon GSC > TWEWY
KHII > MGS4
TLoU > Halo 3
FFVI > ACII
TTYD > ToS
KotOR > Xenogears
Zelda:WW > Pokemon X/Y
Smash Wii U > Planescape
ME > SMG2
Halo > Minecraft
FFVII > Journey
SMB3 > AoE2
Pokemon RBY > Tetris
Sonic 2 > Portal 2
Uncharted 2 > Walking Dead
Fallout 3 > Life is Strange
Undertale > ME3
FFVIII > GTA:VC
SMW > AC:NL
Skyrim > PW:AA
GE007 > Diablo II
Metroid Prime > Morrowind
HL2 > Demon's Souls
Mario 64 > MK8
FFT > RE2
Zelda:TP > SoA
Persona 4 > 999

Zelda:OoT > Hearthstone
Suikoden II > MH4U
Okami > Warcraft III
FFIX > KH1
DKC2 > Xenoblade
FE:A > Mario Maker
BK > Baldur's Gate II
SotN > PW:T&T
Zelda:LttP > Cave Story
FFIV > Deus Ex
MGSV > Perfect Dark
Dark Souls > Civ V
Super Metroid > CoD4
Mario Galaxy > DA:O
FFXII > Bloodborne
Zelda:MM > Valkyria
GTAV > Shenmue
SMRPG > Oblivion
GTA:SA > Shovel Knight
CC > WoW
Witcher 3 > Isaac: Rebirth
MGS2 > RE
Fallout:NV > BioShock Inf
RE4 > Paper Mario
MGS > Splatoon
EB > Borderlands 2
SotC > TF2
RDR > Bayonetta 2
MGS3 > Mother 3
BioShock > SH2
Starcraft > Destiny
ME2 > VLR

Round Two
CT > DQVIII
FFX > MMX
Melee > Pokemon GSC
KHII > TLoU
FFVI > TTYD
Zelda:WW > KotOR
Smash Wii U > ME
FFVII > Halo
Pokemon RBY > SMB3
Sonic 2 > Uncharted 2
Undertale > Fallout 3
SMW > FFVIII
Skyrim > GE007
Metroid Prime > HL2
Mario 64 > FFT
Zelda:TP > Persona 4
Zelda:OoT > Suikoden II
FFIX > Okami
DKC2 > FE:A
SotN > BK
Zelda:LttP > FFIV
Dark Souls > MGSV
Super Metroid > SMG
Zelda:MM > FFXII
SMRPG > GTAV
CC > GTA:SA
MGS2 > Witcher 3
RE4 > Fallout:NV
MGS > EB
SotC > RDR
MGS3 > Bioshock
ME2 > Starcraft

R3 and following
CT > FFX
Melee > KHII
FFVI > Zelda:WW
FFVII > Smash Wii U
Pokemon RBY > Sonic 2
Undertale > SMW
Skyrim > Metroid Prime
Mario 64 > Zelda:TP
Zelda:OoT > FFIX
SotN > DKC2
Zelda:LttP > Dark Souls
Zelda:MM > Super Metroid
SMRPG > CC
RE4 > MGS2
MGS > SotC
MGS3 > ME2
Melee > CT
FFVII > FFVI
Undertale > Pokemon RBY
Mario 64 > Skyrim
Zelda:OoT > SotN
Zelda:LttP > Zelda:MM
SMRPG > RE4
MGS3 > MGS
Melee > FFVII
Undertale > Mario 64
Zelda:OoT > Zelda:LttP
SMRPG > MGS3
Undertale > Melee
Zelda:OoT > SMRPG
Undertale > Zelda:OoT



Melee > SMRPG

Grudge Matches
CT > FFVI
Pokemon RBY > Mario 64


Zelda:OoT > FFVII

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