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Round One


Thursday, September 25th, 2008

Ulti's Analysis[]

Poll 3251
Division 2
Match # 8
Match Date Thursday, September 25th, 2008
Mega Man X - 45.36%
Mudkip - 25.56%
Lloyd Irving - 16.73%
Tom Nook - 12.34%
Mega Man X first place (2pts) - 48.92%
Mega Man X second place (1pt) - 37.24%
Mudkip second place (2pts) - 25.41%
Mudkip first place (1pt) - 30.65%
Mega Man X - 86.16% (36,965)
Mudkip - 56.06% (24,051)

Pre-contest, Mudkip was pegged by many as the next potential L-Block. He had all the makings of it, too. A well-known meme, total joke status, he comes from a mega-popular franchise, and perhaps most importantly, people were actually rooting for him to go off and smash this bracket in half. The issue there is round 2 would end up featuring Mudkip in a match against Mega Man X, Mario, and Zelda. There was zero chance of a contest run unless Mudkip had some hidden Draven in him right from the jump, and he... didn't.

This is not to say he wasn't super impressive here, but the bracket placement meant he wasn't able to get the bandwagon effect going. Beyond Mudkip himself, the first major factor was there; his first match featured two garbage cans. No one likes Tom Nook, and Fails of is one of the most historically inept-yet-always-nominated entities we've ever seen. The board consensus of Mega Man X > Mudkip was practically on lock. Unfortunately, you also need good bracket placement for a run like that, which simply didn't happen. More on that in round 2.

The other big debut to launch in this match was Mega Man X, who is a character many thought could be just as strong as Mega Man himself (if not stronger), so it was important for X to get started on the right foot. And oh my goodness did he ever. This was a beating, and I'll just spoil you on the stats and let you know this is every bit the number Mega Man himself would have put up. It's an actual crime we've yet to see Mega Man vs X, because that match would be nuts, but it is what it is. We've yet to get a true Sonic vs Mario, either, though that match would be like 70-30 in Mario's favor these days.

This all added up to very impressive performances by our two winners, and it became very obvious very quickly that had Mudkip drawn better, he could have won this contest. But even L-Block 2007 couldn't have gotten past Zelda, Mario, and X in round 2. There's just no way. Only Draven or maybe Undertale could have done that.

Stats and Analysis[]

On paper, this was a pretty boring match. In practice, it pretty much confirmed those preconceptions. But the implications of what all this meant was fun to munch on, at least for statheads.

The order of this match was as big a lock as the format would allow - Mega Man is a noble niner, despite his disappointments, and Mega Man X wasn't going to be far enough off from him to fall to Mudkip, who couldn't beat the fanbase split Luigi and Ganondorf. Meanwhile, Mudkip wasn't going to ever be in danger of losing to Lloyd, who barely beat Albert Wesker and who just got done blowing the ASV and immortalizing the phrase "pulling a Lloyd" against HK-47 last year.

And in the end, most of our expectations were vindicated, even though there wasn't much to go on - and what was scared the hell out of the board. Mudkip didn't falter in the slightest, breaking 40% on Mega Man X (remember when Zelda couldn't do that against MM?), who in turn was putting 45% on the whole pack. Sure, I've already discussed Lloyd's hilarious failings and no one knows who Tom Nook is, but still, it was hard to assert that Mega Man X was anything less than MM, and could easily be a bit more. yoblazer's hilarious analysis of their pictures and dissecting the badassery of the letter X only strengthened this sentiment.

There wasn't too much to say for the moment, though next round seemed damn scary. With Mario faltering, a Zelda that looked like she could stand up to anyone, a potentially stronger Mega Man, and MUDKIP... did we have the potential for something horrifying going down?

This was to say nothing of what implications that would mean for L-BLOCK. If there's anything the board bet against en masse this year, it was jokes, and Mudkip's success was making already mangled brackets set for another wail.

Match Trends[]


Ngamer's Same Day Analysis[]

Match Prediction[]

For today we're looking at quite the intriguing matchup. That seems weird to say, given that the #1 spot isn't going to be in question at all, and neither should the #2, really. What lends this match its appeal is the long-awaited Contest debut of Mega Man X... firstly because we've never seen him in action before and its hard to say how close to the original MM he's going to perform, and secondly because we'll be getting our first taste of how Mega Man 9 will impact this Contest. Talk about exciting! Let's see if the numbers hold any answers for us.

Last Known Values

  • Mega Man X - new
  • Mudkip - 21.53% (2007)
  • Lloyd - 19.97% (2007)
  • Tom Nook - 12.61% (2007)

Original MM looked pretty darn solid in this format last season, scoring a value of around 39 while doing even more than was expected of him, including seriously contending for the win against Samus (sure he was benefited by the sprite round, but STILL). My best guess is that MMX is going to be a touch weaker than MM in these polls. "But wait! MMX beat MM straight up in that 'what's your favorite version of Mega Man' poll a couple months back!" Well yes, he did, but we've seen how far you can trust favorite character in the series polls as they relate to real Contest strength, and MMX > MM feels like one of those Yoshi > Mario situations to me. Still, it should be fairly close. What really has me pumped is to see what kind of impact MM9 is going to have here- with the Wii release on Monday and the PS3 and 360 versions also arriving this week, you couldn't have asked for a better time for the game to drop. People seem to be genuinely excited about the Mega Man series for the first time in many years, and IMO that's bound to do wonders for everything connected to the games, including MMX and Zero. But we'll see if I'm right about that.

What else do we have going on... oh, there's Mudkip. Even though I don't like Mudkipz, I've got to give the guy some credit, as he held up remarkably well against Luigi and some other decent Nintendo competition last time around. I doubt the fad has died off much, so he might even look better than the 22 value he posted in '07 for this one. But golly, I certainly hope not!

Lloyd is just... ew. Couldn't we please just use Kratos A as the pinnacle of what Tales is worth in these polls and stop noming everyone else? Actually I could see Mudkip starting fadilly strong before losing ground to Lloyd overnight. Then Lloyd would get all our hopes up like he did last season before allowing Mudkip to easily skate away from him with the ASV, just like HK-47 did. Ugh. Oh and I guess Tom Nook is involved in this as well. Hate to break it to the little guy, but last year was probably about the best performance he could have expected... with Mudkip in the way to steal his Nintendo joke fans, and other decent Nintendo options also present, he could very well have trouble being worth more than 10% in these stats when all is said and done.

Sooo, factoring what should be a good MM showing with what we saw from these last time, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes of stirring the pot to find:

  • Mega Man X - 48.14%
  • Mudkip - 24.08%
  • Lloyd Irving - 18.42%
  • Tom Nook - 9.36%

Yes sir... Realistically, that looks pretty good. Would be so pleased to see MMX perform way above that and Mudkip way below, though!

Ngamer Says: Mega Man X > Mudkip

Next Day Review[]

...dang it all, Mudkip! IMO today's result gives us one answer (the kipper is fueled by "the kiddies", not 4chan, aside from a couple hundred votes in the first half hour) and leaves us with one question (what in the crap is wrong with Lucario? seriously, how can you have D/P, AND Brawl, and still be this far back of 'kip?). Certainly appears as though Zelda is going to be in for some trouble next round; but might even MMX be at risk as well? I shudder to consider it!

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2008 Contest Matches

Round One
Zack > Wario
Link > Zidane
Marth > Duke
Altair > Lucario
Luigi > Liquid
Bowser > Phoenix
Mario > Zelda
X > Mudkip
Samus > Nightmare
Ganondorf > Frog
Vincent > Falco
Scorpion > Gordon
Crono > Amaterasu
L-Block > Ryu
Alucard > Falcon

Pikachu > Arthas
Cube > Tidus
Mega Man > Nero
Ryu H > Zero
Snake > Vivi
Sora > Fox
Squall > Yoshi
Cloud > Midna
Mewtwo > Pac-Man
Big Boss > Kirby
Master Chief > Raiden
Leon > Riku
Dante > Hogger
Sonic > Sandbag
Auron > Sub-Zero
Sephiroth > Tifa
Kratos > Jill

Round Two
Link > Zack
Duke > Altair
Liquid > Luigi
Mario > X
Samus > Ganondorf
Vincent > Gordon
Crono > L-Block
Pikachu > Alucard
Mega Man > Cube
Snake > Zero
Squall > Sora
Cloud > Mewtwo
Kirby > Master Chief
Dante > Leon
Auron > Sonic
Sephiroth > Kratos

R3 and following
Link > Zack
Mario > X
Samus > Vincent
Crono > Pikachu
Snake > Cube
Cloud > Mewtwo
Kirby > Dante
Sephiroth > Sonic
Link > Mario
Samus > Crono
Cloud > Snake
Sephiroth > Kirby
Link > Crono
Snake > Cloud
Link > Snake (Finals)
Classic > CD-I (Bonus)